Good point, but for simplicity I see them as one. Nostr identities have little value without the relays. I know this is semantics, but what I am looking for is a simple way to communicate to normies.

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Actually the fact that Nostr works WITHOUT relays is a superpower

nostr:nprofile1qqsxhugzf33nvzfmvvkm9k3pkedyf37c9qcy2na56atrfw3grctpeyqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9ujp7g6q brings Document Signing to those without internet (offline mode)

https://docs.sigit.io/#/offline

Nostr Identity + Relays scales to 1000s

Nostr Identity + NIP-98 scales to billions