You are arguing at an individual level, my arguments are at a societal level.

It’s like arguing Monero is better because it has better privacy for the individual - sure for that one use case at an individual level it is superior, but for the broad usecase of money Bitcoin is the better solution.

You’re ignoring the scaling trade offs of Solar because for your individual circumstances and calculations it’s better. That’s why you suggest small-scale hydro as the alternative as if people just have fucking rivers flowing through their 10 acre off grid properties (hint, 99.9999% of people have neither)…

If I’m truly concerned about TPTB disconnecting my power then yeah solar is better - if I’m concerned with empowering people to lead better lives then dense, abundant and cheap power is the way and that is nuclear.

You seem happier to have Billions forego energy abundance which would drastically improve their lives to live poorer but more sovereign - I reject that as it’s no better than the self-entitled attitude of the climate cultists who want us all to reduce our living standards and consume less energy for some supposed greater good.

Your greater good might be more noble and real than that of the cultists but I don’t believe you defeat this shit by making everyone live shittier more sovereign lives today, but rather you maximise the number of people whose lives get better with energy abundance which will lead them to sovereignty in future.

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I never said anything about using less power. We actually produce 3X more energy then our home consumes and mine/ sell excess to the grid.

Your starting to move goal posts around. I clearly stated nuclear energy would be good for industrial manufacturing but would make manufacturing plants terrorist targets.

I don’t care the power source as long as I can control it that’s why I recommend hydro for people in Canada because they don’t get as much sun.

Hydro, Solar, geothermal are all great (not wind) wind is a shitcoin

Nuclear leads to centralization of energy production and i will not simp

Me: How do you deliver 80,000+ kWh per capita per annum to 8 Billion people all around the globe?

You: Ask people in developing countries if solar can meet the basic human requirements.

Me: *explains why I’m talking about nuclear at a societal level which can deliver that 80,000 kWh*

You: I never said anything about using less power.

I don’t move goalposts. I told you the goalposts and you talked about people having their basic needs met and then I explained why that isn’t what I’m talking about.

I’m talking about people generally, you’re talking about yourself and delivering a bare minimum to everyone else as if that’s sufficient because fuck them, you’ve got 3X what you need.

I want humanity to flourish and that requires abundant energy. I’ll take the flourishing now and the sovereignty later, you want the sovereignty now and fuck the flourishing.

That’s fine, that’s your frame, but I’m not entertaining your frame because it’s no different than the climate cultists other than it comes from the other side.

TLDR

Your literally the soy boy from the memes screaming at the top of your lungs for governments and oligarchs to feed you nuclear power.

I’m the laser eyed bitcoiner that doesn’t complain and produces my own energy.

We are not the same.

No. I’m just a pragmatist who realises who has what. Mostly because I fund 9/10 of my fellow citizens via taxes.

I want Bitcoin to be global money, I want people globally to flourish. I recognise the limitations to both.

You want what’s good for you.

We are definitely not the same.

What the fuck are you even saying?

Solar is the most affordable decentralized energy source for developing countries, bitcoin citadels, plebs, you, me, everyone.

A true bitcoiner realizes this.