#asknostr

Nostr is NOT PsyOps nor Algorithm resistance - architecturally speaking!...

Here is why:

As opposed to what I read from other people's posts here and what I first thought of Nostr that "it does not have an algorithm to beat like the centralised platforms where you are not served by contents based on what you like, based on your likes or engagement patterns, etc."

This is technically NOT TRUE! The documents that I read from the developer of Nostr says otherwise.

"Techniques to trick the user:

Each client can decide how to best show posts to users, so there is always the option of just consuming what you want in the manner you want — from using an AI to decide the order of the updates you’ll see to just reading them in chronological order. " @fiatjaf from

https://fiatjaf.com/nostr.html

Yes, at the moment, as far as my user experience from the clients that I am using. I am consuming content feed based on chronological order or based on the filters of feed that I want like in Primal - eg Latest, Trending, #travel, Latest Replies, etc.

But this does not mean it will never change!

It only means NO CLIENTS yet (not that I am aware of, or at least I have not used yet!) have the same algorithm as most centralised platforms where encourages you to consume more content based on which content attracts you the most!

As a former programmer and a data consultant, I became curious about the architecture of Nostr. Hence, I took time to read the above and nostr-resources. However, I am very keen for any references that you can recommend for further reading to expand my understanding of #nostr.

As someone new to this platform and really rooting for its success because of its opportunity and potential. I believe as a user it is worth knowing the future of Nostr strategically speaking.

At the end of the day, every projects, start-up or innovation requires funding. I am yet to find the plans for nostr. I have not read the NIPS yet so will be next.

USER DATA CONTROL:

Where I am not clear from the docs is about the user data control.

1.) Delete Events or Notes:

In order for clients to query and retrieve my events or posts, it must be stored somewhere. I have to requests to DELETE EVENTS/Notes depending on the clients that I used. I have not used clients yet that let me delete my notes without needing to contact the client's admin . This user effort is not ideal. Perhaps this is already on the to-do lists of devs?

2.) Account deletion. I know each user has public key but I do not believe I can DELETE my public key should I wish so. Or at least I can only see deletion of my posts/notes functionality. I don't believe this functionality is available yet or will be available. From the docs that I read Nostr is decentralised through Relays and each relays do not have to communicate with each other. But some have already the capability to broadcasts your data for further distribution. Does this mean my public key along with its metadata, once out there, it is FOREVER there? I am genuinely curious because I have not seen this on my research yet. I know everything is tag as EVENTS and each events has its "kind".

Any further reading about data control or reference guide is greatly appreciated!

Enjoy your Sat night! 😀

#grownostr #architecture #tech #decentralise #lifecoach #growthteacher

Cheers,

M💋

There may be algorithms, but in comparison to centralized social platforms it's the user's choice to choose his preferred algorithm. In the simplest case by choosing his client.

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true. you are right. every user has a choice which client and to whom to give out their data.

the same choice were given to them by the centralised social media platform.

sadly, not all users are aware that they were being served content to intentionally manipulate them. users thought it was normal and even to this day, if you asked people from developing countries, they would probably thought it is normal.

hence, I chose to move here.

However, endorsing #nostr as an alternative on the basis that "it does not use tricks like other big tech or centralised social media platform, attention grabbing!" is very dangerous claim.

Yes, there is no ads YET but this does not mean it won't CHANGE! Netflix (although not decentralised but they have ads now!).

This type of FALSE PRETENSE that it is resilient to this methodology is misleading and this is how you lost trust from your user base!

My point, products and services FREE or NOT starts from a place of trust. If the main website is telling opposite and the developer doc is different, don't you think this #grownostr community deserve to know?!

Not everyone here are technically savvy. #nostr is gaining traction, it makes sense to make sure that technical facts are align to what is written on the code. Unless what the dev's team wrote are obsolete then that doc must be removed!

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the experience that I have here esp with the people I met.

I do not want to start in a new platform BEING MISLED based on the misunderstanding from other user based here. This is how fake news start!

Again, every user has a CHOICE and every user has the right to transparency to make a wise informative decision.

Nost has this vision that the community comes from its people. As part of that community, I want this to be known to other people so they fully understand what they are getting!

Good convo!😀

Cheers,

M💋