That's why you need good out-of-the-box, cheap & usable onchain privacy. That's what enables us to just ignore those tyrants and transact freely, as Satoshi envisioned.
#Bitcoin gives them the power to regulate us, #Monero helps and protects the ones living under this socialist/totalitarian regime.
yea, it is such a nobrainer. amazing that the saylor fanboys have problems getting the most simple facts.
#Monero gives them the power to completely block you
I can also "just ignore those tyrants and transact freely."
You Monero bros forget that you have even bigger problems than Bitcoin. Yet instead of fighting the tyrants, you just shill your coin wherever you see a Bitcoin post about privacy.
If you think Monero is perfect, then good luck, enjoy your life.
Can you please elaborate more on how they have the power to completely block me vs the same situation under BTC?
What would those bigger problems be?
And no, Monero is not perfect. But it's the best overall design that currently is able to deliver useful safety/privacy to the people that need it.
They just make it impossible for you to turn Monero back into real-world spending power without jumping through insane hoops.
No merchant acceptance, no payment processors, no payroll, no loans, no mortgages, no nothing in the ālegalā economy. You end up with the most private money that buys youā¦ almost nothing useful outside small P2P circles.
Thatās a cage with golden bars, not a Wonderland.
I understand your pure ideological winner approach regarding Monero, yet the reality will bring you down on earth when you use it as a day to day currency.
Youāre freeā¦ as long as you never want to buy a house, pay taxes legally, receive your salary, shop in internet, or do anything that 99.9 % of humanity does daily.
Thatās not freedom, thatās exile with extra steps.
Back to my post. Our problem, all of us, is that part of the world is trying to be tyrannical. So if you don't want to completely exile yourself from areas that trend towards authoritarianism, you need to find solutions to be able to live. You use Monero, I use Bitcoin. Fine. Instead of directing your energy to fight me, combat the real enemy.
All good man, i dont fight you š I was just stunned that you call a public, transparent ledger "untraceable". I think you are just waking up to the core problem.
Sure you can not buy stuff with XMR in a normal shop, or a house - but neither can you with BTC. Adoption for BTC payments is almost zero. Most exchange to fiat to buy stuff. You get KYCed and your coins history gets analyzed.
There are many such fiat bridges for Monero too.
A store of value where anyone can see your account balance and transaction history will turn out to be pretty terrible in a tyrannical future.
If we want to be free, we have to use something they can not trace, can not censor and can not shut down. You will not fight tyranny by asking them to stop surveilling and controlling you and your family.
Paying taxes and owning a store of value house shortly before the fiat collapse is stupid.
I almost exclusively live on Monero and that won't change under any future conditions.
I invested a lot of time into building my anti-fragile "golden cage" outside the system. Enjoy the system while you still can.
People are approaching me and I'll tell them how they can use Monero to free up their lives one step after another.
It's a mind game. An attached mind never can see or create more freedom.
Nobody says its perfect - but it is our best shot currently. Many -XMR users are Bitcoin OGs who are tired of waiting for BTC to evolve into something we can actually use as money and separate money and the state.
