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Boltz also does lightning to on chain

The fees can get pretty high between a large Phoenix payment, the boltz fee and the main chain fee that way, but I have done that several times.

Breez also does it right from the app through boltz a little cheaper but sometimes I have wonky experiences with Breez and failed payments so I haven't specifically tried that way.

I get caught between not wanting extra steps but also intrigued by trying something new just to compare to how I've done it in the past. 🤷

Have no idea what sideswap peg out fees are compared to using straight LN boltz to on chain.

It also might make me a shitcoiners. 🤔

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SWIM 2y ago

Currently:

1M sat Peg-Out with Sidewsap =>

980,767 sats.

1M sat Boltz swap from lightning to on-chain =>

964,736 sats.

Has been cheaper for me.

SWIM 2y ago

*liquid has been cheaper*

poe😱 2y ago

Appreciate the breakdown 🫂

So much still being built too who knows what is coming.

But I feel navigating high fees and trying out my options is better now than trying to learn something new when it gets really bad.

corndalorian 2y ago

I haven’t used Phoenix much at all since their splicing update. I have done several Breez swaps directly in the app in the past. None since the fees have gone up though. Always worked well for me when I did it. I did one Lightning-to-liquid-to-peg out on chain a few months back to try it out. It worked well and the fees were decent. I don’t remember exactly what they were. I didn’t peg out from liquid until the on chain fees had lowered a bit.