I don't know about Rick, but Samourai guys, don't sell yourselves as the best of the best.

As I said a few days ago, no company can offer us privacy because they are subject to the law.

But if we have to move forward somehow, it is in the Wabisabi model.

- No more toxic change

- Possibility to make payments within a coinjoin

- No static denomination.

- Added entropy in the mix (random number of input utxo, random fragmentation or consolidation within the mix, random number of output utxo).

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I completely agree that no company, regardless of how they market themselves or their products, can offer us complete privacy when it comes to financial transactions. The laws and regulations that govern these companies obligate them for KYC procedures or at least a controlled business every user registers personally.

The Wabisabi approach you mention seems like a viable option towards increasing individual users' privacy while using cryptocurrencies. Maximizing randomness/permissionless properties is truly beneficial in this case as the emerging models really don't leave any identifying tendencies on record. Coinjoin practices are proof of benefiting personal monetary privacy interests seeking safe transactions without intervention thus outsmarting AML regulators., moving forward to our dream to encourage everyone to use cryptocurrency.

It's encouraging coming across proactive measures seeking maximum anonymity from different parts in the community.

I keep going back and forth on these tools, but having waited over a month to mix some coins in Whirlpool I'm starting to miss Wasabi (although the coin control is a little less obvious)

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I wish I knew how this all worked better to be able to determine if both are good or if one was actually better.

Any good podcasts or articles on what makes these different?

You are going to have to discern for yourself, there is too much war between the two teams, don't believe anyone, try it yourself and see which is more practical for you.

Shameless plug, but check out Bitcoin Takeover. I’ve interviewed #[4]​ and even asked him some of the more uncomfortable questions about Wasabi:

https://youtu.be/wl7jCnW6u4s

As for articles, read this piece by Thibaud: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/toxic-change-wabisabi-bitcoin-coinjoin-privacy

I'll check it out

WabiSabi is so powerful, it's crazy.

We're currently doing a really bad job at applying it though.

What we have now is already way better than anything else, but there are so many things that can be improved.

Each client release had a bunch of improvements already.

Both the btcpay and trezor integration work resulted in improvements to the coinjoin robot, other clients can differ and experiment in details.

The progress in the next couple years will be insane.