i think you are falling for the propaganda in this case
i mean you ended up hating some culture
you probably dont know much about
at least you should differentiate between the people and the government
https://video.nostr.build/e03eb36c6ea61c31794cadc129f1dfddfb3121772b8143e071b2fc970687c0b7.mp4
Direct attack on the Chernobyl containment shield by a Russian drone.
They're just evil. Negotiations are stupid. the only goal that makes sense is exterminating them.
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Both sides put out insane propaganda, those who see the Ukrainian one and claim the russians say the truth are in for a very bad awakening from the "awakening"
okay good that you know about that.
but it just seems some are leaning towards one side and got a "good" and "bad" sense just from one mainstream media
who also lies about other stuff.
Peters Family is beeing bombed since 3 years now in a full scale war, I guess he is aware of both sides propaganda and lies
didnt know about that, thanks for the heads up.
you cant argue with hate.
but how else you want to solve this?
you have to negotiate!
YOU CAN NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE.
This is such a naive take I can't believe one hears it after 3 years of war.
If your neighbor breaks into your house, shoots your child in the head and rapes your wife are you going to negotiate?
Whats your take when your other neighbour comes in and tells you you have to negotiate, maybe give up a little territory, the burglar can keep your living room, your wife and the car, but it's important to negotiate.
He will definitly not come back to claim more even if he hundret times said that he will publicly in the past.
its a hard topic because lifes of many people are involved
and many innocent are dying
but why you have to drag in all the other people ?
if the case is what you are describing
it would be something else
maybe i would be dragged in before you ?
and i dont want to fight this shit
so you have to cummunicate, right ?
or should we just let hate and fear flow
and kill all each other ?
you know its all a little bit more complex
Yes that's what I try to communicate with you. It's complex and the only language authoritarian dictators understand is power and violence.
The war can end tomorrow, Putin just needs to pull his troops from Ukraines sovereign Territory.
If Ukraine lays down the weapons they will all be killed as many times publicly stated and called for on Russias biggest broadcasting channel.
Putin got lied to by his own military command and expected a flower war like Hitler with the Anschluss of Austria.
But instead it was all lies, the Ukrainians did not want to join the federation and he got Himars instead of Flowers.
Using the same old Tactics the Sovjet already used in Afghanistan his command forgot that the Ukrainian Command also got trained in the sovjet era and so his 3 day invasion failed in the first 12 hours.
Here is an exceptional documentary about it. Only 20mins long and I highly recommend you watch it!
see i got a whole different picture of the situation
and what i sense are a lot of emotions
what there will be in the future
we cant know
your source told that ukraines would be killed
if they lay down weapons.
sounds like a big fear porn to me
so your source is feeding emotions
and not informations
because you cant know the future
and if they talk about the future like a done deal
it is just a FEAR SHOW!
Its not my source man It's the Russians on public television saying it themselfs, I don't have any "source" I just take public statements and form my own point of view. I don't have any emotions for either side, the only ones I stand with are Ukrainian Civilians
Russia started this war by invading Ukraine. How can you say both sides are equally bad
You don't fight a war at this scale without the involvement of the entire population. A double digit percentage of Russia's entire GDP goes to the invasion, likely in the region of 20% or so. That's not that far from WW2 levels of spending.
The entire economy of Russia is a legitimate military target. And people who haven't wanted to be involved in war have had literally over a decade to leave. Millions have.
You're just making excuses to protect evil people.
I am not the one who is calling for more war.
I want that this shit ends.
Thats why you have to negotiate.
And i dont think that the statement
"all ukraine people are good and all russian people are evil",
is true at all.
but i am sorry if you or your family suffered from this...
A whole Israel exists, but go on
"The entire economy" GFY you clearly care nothing for the Third Geneva Convention.
How about: take some of my tax money and go get killed attempting to do this genocide you want others to do for you.
my boss lost his private house near Kharkiv. it was bombed because it was next to a bread factory. later he got a call from his aunt in russia, and he told her that his house was gone, bombed. The aunt said it was for your own good.
I could tell you for a long time how Ukrainians called their relatives in russia and what answers they got.
Probably it is putin who forced them to say that )