It always starts off great. Then you realize that:

- landscape layout sucks

- app manifest caching is broken

- ... only on certain platforms

- people are stuck on an old version

- or they just want to use the app right now instead of updating

- or their connection was unstable on update and now they have half old and have new assets

- some basic API isn't available

- or is available but has different options than the normal API

- or different bugs

- and things behave differently when installed as a PWA vs a web page

- etc

This isn't a criticism of jumble.social as I haven't used it. I've long advocated for PWAs and web first, but... it's way harder than it needs to be

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So test jumble.social. I'm sure you will love it.

And if you find any problem, I'm sure Jumble developer nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl is listening and will fix it.

Definitely not criticizing any PWA. Maintaining them is hard work 🙏

It's harder cause the "market" pushed towards native apps for over a decade. Faster, more reliable, more control, more compliant, stores with policies.. It made sense.

But I can see a momentum for web and pwa. Not just interest from people like us. Also finally Mozilla is jumping back on working on it.

If we work on this all those problems are going to go away.

Just one example: cashu.me is definitely one of the best app i use and it's a PWA.

Hey, the first advocate of PWA was Steve Jobs. He didn't want there to be any App Store – just the web

maybe he was, most likely others shared this view: it does not change what happened.