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I am certainly not proposing or supporting a system of governance, but tell me, how does anarchy work in any community larger than the individual?

BTC_P2P 2y ago

Opt in organization. It would be a system where markets were the primary governing force and economic cooperation maximized.

Insurance companies to cover myriad risks, private police / military to enforce property rights in instances where needed, private infrastructure, private education. There are examples of these things working.

Imagine an economy that was substantially more robust bc there was no government interference. No taxes, no red tape, no regulation creating massive imbalances and destroying incentives.

Then imagine keeping 100% of your increased earnings and putting that toward the things you need / want. It would be a major economic feedback loop and it would much more efficient for the individual.

Currently in the west, if you include inflation, people are losing >50% of their earnings to Government. Those taxes are completely misused by Government and are essentially a total loss - meaning we get very little if anything personally from our tax “contributions”.

Imagine a world where we all had at least 2x more capital and we could choose where / how to best spend it. You can allocate your capital better than anyone else can, especially governments. They waste the money they take from everyone bc its just flows in automatically and there is no recourse for their misallocations.

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The Realist 2y ago

Municipalities should have more power for its people than feds. Feds don't represent anyone properly.

Jac 2y ago

The sheriff actually does have ultimate jurisdiction in the US.

BTC_P2P 2y ago

Fully agree. I am really hoping to see the US federal government fail and dissolve in my lifetime. They add nothing but take a lot. They also hurt a lot of people. I hope to see many large nation states fail in my lifetime not just picking on the US.

Jac 2y ago

If this is to happen, we (humanity) won’t be able to just watch.

Jac 2y ago

This sounds agorist in nature, but can we agree that it is far from anarchy?

BTC_P2P 2y ago

Yeah Agorism is how I would choose to define it.

How do you define anarchy in this conversation? It’s a word that’s been co-opted and the meaning distorted. Similarly to socialism and communism, just according to their original definitions.

Rothbard and others refer to themselves as anarchists or anarcho-capitalists and have written extensively about these types of economic philosophies. Opt in, market / economic driven societies. I thought this is what you were referring to. Maybe we’re just not defining the word in question the same to start.

Jac 2y ago

I tend to define anarchy as the absence of adherence to the rule of law or social and cultural norms. I see it as a state of animalism where self gratification is the only tenet attended to. As such, humanity would devolve to a lone wolf mentality, with survival at all costs ascending to the top priority, followed by unconcerned procreation. If it sounds familiar, maybe you saw it on Animal Planet. 😒

BTC_P2P 2y ago

Sounds like San Francisco 😂😂

Yeah we were speaking on different definitions. Anarcho-capitalism or Agorism imo can work and work better for the individual than the nation state model. But like I said before tech has to improve still for smaller Agorist societies to flourish. It’s happening though! We’re here watching and participating in some big changes.

Jac 2y ago

Yep, it’s been nice talking to you. We’ll work towards a brighter future.

BTC_P2P 2y ago

Yesser. And same, good chat. I’m optimistic.