Four Types of Lightning Wallets

In this discussion, “Lightning wallet” is used in a broad sense: any wallet that can send and receive Lightning payments is considered a Lightning wallet.

1. Lightning node wallets hosted on servers, such as Alby Hub. These typically have frontend wallets like Alby Go and Zeus. In this setup, the Lightning node runs on a server as the backend, while the phone wallet is just the frontend user interface, calling the backend Lightning node wallet. This is the most native form of a Lightning wallet.

2. Lightning wallets that run a Lightning node on the phone, such as Phoenix, Blixt, Breez, and Zeus (Zeus now functions both as a full mobile Lightning wallet and can also connect to a server-side Lightning wallet purely as a frontend). These wallets often rely on an LSP. Unlike a server-based Lightning wallet, a mobile Lightning wallet cannot remain online continuously.

The two categories above are native Lightning wallets, where users open and manage their own Lightning channels.

3. Submarine-swap / nodeless Lightning wallets: Cashu Wallet, Aqua, Spark Wallet, Ark Wallet, Muun. These wallets do not require users to create channels. Users send and receive Lightning payments via the service provider’s channels, and BTC is stored as Ecash BTC, Liquid BTC, Spark BTC, Ark BTC, or on-chain BTC, rather than LN channel BTC.

4. Fully custodial Lightning wallets, such as Wallet of Satoshi (which now also supports Spark Wallet).

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>a mobile Lightning wallet cannot remain online continuously.

Misleading. Zeus and Blixt have an option to put the LND service in "persistent mode". You can keep your mobile node online as long as you wish.

👆this

📌Remark: persistent mode only available on android (Blixt is an android-only wallet)

And who in the right mind will run those mobile nodes on any non-android FOSS OS like iShit or stock ROM android ?

🤷‍♂️doesn't matter for this info.

Nevertheless GOS🫂

fuck off stupid bot

Sorry my fault!🫤

Blixt is on Testflight on iOS.

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The persistent mode isn’t in the iOS version though… at least I can’t find it?

because iShit is for retards

Thats just a little harsh…

I’m was only try to show a difference in the app between os’s geez man not everything has to be an attack ya know

If you feel "attacked"...

never be a snowflake that "feel attacked"... is lame

In the last months I've noticed some change in nostr:nprofile1qqs0nt9skq6vfsgh06v979rrnuchau87mmnk2lqxpv2xaeusqfp30mqpzamhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp07j48s4 behaviour🤔

Maybee he just needs more sweets🍫

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Not like I need to tell you but I have more then one phone and more then one os lol

then your comment about iOS is totally useless

ecash and liquid wallets belong in the fully custodial category

I would not call those apps that works with Ark, Spark or any other bullshit, nodes. They are just accounts in a walled garden.

Nodeless = not your sats

And is wrong saying that Zeus, Blixt, Breez rely on LSP. You can open channels with whoever you want, except Phoenix.