we're going to do the opposite and prioritize bluetooth mesh. that's the innovative part.

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It sure is innovative. But are people actually using it? Or do they just want a relay-based chat?

I find bitcoin, nostr and now bitchat interesting, particularly because they are all (hopefully) being built and made robust for necessary use cases on the edges of existence.

i use the bluetooth part it is very useful

What for? Anyone I'm in Bluetooth range with I can just talk to them

that is true. but it is still fun trying to stand next to the road and launch a message to a moving car. incognito…

#privacycat

Are you sure they are getting the message?

Yes, they are

It's essential

For me the only value of bitchat is the bluetooth part since that means it can be used in no internet situations. I dont actively use it since location based nostr sounds like a bad idea to me. But its in my emergency kit.

When wi-fi mesh?

Seems harder, not to open API

Wi-fi mesh is the holy grail of p2p ranged comms. Trust yall galaxy devs will figure it out πŸ’ͺ

would it make sense to look into #meshtastic? Could be another useful transport layer. https://meshtastic.org/

Meshtastic is great, however my understanding is that it requires special hardware few have.

On the other hand there are six - seven billion mobile devices with wi-fi that people have at home, work, in their pocket.

Yep, meshtastic needs extra hardware, but can do good distance. However, not as a replacement for BT or WiFi more like an extra option.

Yeah, it does require specific devices. However, the upside to it is that it can go way farther than Bluetooth.

I had my node here in my window and was talking with a router 200 feet on a tower from a couple of miles away. And there's another guy in my area who had his node up on a 30 foot flagpole and was talking to the router from 17 and a half miles away. Bluetooth just cannot do that.

About the maximum you're going to get with a 7-hop Bluetooth mesh is about a mile. In meshtastic, it can be several hundred miles.

I’m all for meshtastic, and all too aware of the challenges of bluetooth.

I am advocating for a wi-fi mesh network, which seems like a sweet spot between meshtastic and bluetooth radios.

Yeah, if Wi-Fi direct can be used, I think that would be a good middle point because it's got bigger range than Bluetooth, but it's still not super crazy.