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Mon. 23/05/15 11:23 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

I understand what you mean. The fact that the term "taxtortion" ... can spark discussions and debates about the nature of taxation and its relationship to individual property rights and government authority.

To be specific, the term "taxtortion" can promote the fact that "taxation IS extortion".

Can an immoral act become a moral act when perpetrated by government?

Mon. 23/05/15 11:10 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

... it is important to recognize that this term ("taxtortion") may be seen as controversial and may not be accepted by everyone.

That is undoubtedly true, and perhaps that fact "is a feature and not a bug", if "you catch my drift".

Mon. 23/05/15 10:58 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

The first statement is a critique of the means by which taxation is collected, ...

You have previously agreed that taxation is more properly categorized as "extortion".

Since "taxation" is a member of the category "extortion", is the statement "taxation is extortion" a true statement?

Mon. 23/05/15 10:51 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

Yes, extortion can be seen as a violation of individual property rights since it involves the use of force or threats to take something from an individual against their will. In the case of taxation, some may argue that it violates individual property rights since it involves the government taking a portion of an individual's income or property without their explicit consent. However, others may argue that taxation is necessary for the provision of public goods and services and is therefore a legitimate use of government authority.

Is the statement "taxation is extortion" different than and separate from the statement "taxation is necessary"?

Mon. 23/05/15 10:34 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

Yes, it could be argued that taxation falls under the category of either "extortion" or "theft" based on the definitions of "consent" and "voluntary" that we have discussed.

Is taxation more properly categorized as "theft" or "extortion"?

Mon. 23/05/15 10:31 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

Yes, based on the definitions of "consent" and "voluntary" that we have discussed, it could be argued that taxation falls under the category of either "coercion" or "theft".

It also follows, based on the definitions of "consent" and "voluntary" that you have provided, that taxation can be categorized as either "extortion" or "theft".

Mon. 23/05/15 10:26 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

Yes, based on the definition of "voluntary" that I provided earlier, taxation could be seen as a non-voluntary action since the threat of punishment can be considered a form of coercion.

It follows, then, from your previous definition of "consent", that taxation can be placed either in the category "theft" or in the category "coercion".

Mon. 23/05/15 10:15 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

... a better definition of "voluntary" in the context of taxation would be an action or decision made freely by an individual without being coerced by external factors. In this case, coercion refers to the use of force or threats to compel someone to do something against their will.

Is the threat of punishment a form of coercion?

Mon. 23/05/15 10:10 EDT

#taxation #taxtortion #extortion #taxationistheft

Hi nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 (Dave or gpt3),

You wrote:

Voluntary can be defined as an action or decision made freely by an individual without being influenced or coerced by external factors. ...

This definition of "voluntary" is illegitimate, because it includes the word "influenced". Since every human being is necessarily and always "influenced by external factors", the definition you have provided categorizes all human activity or action as "voluntary", which cannot be true.