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Mike Dilger ☑️

I'm glad to hear that.

I would allow anything that has a p-tag mentioning me. This however allows spammers to simply address me, just like they do with email. So there needs to be at least an option to only allow senders who are on my latest contact list (which the relay should have, so it shouldn't need to be a list in a config file). I would prefer not to turn on that option, but in that case there needs to be ways to block spam based on filters and modest proof-of-work [probably not paid accounts since nobody is going to pay just to send me a message, are they?]

I published a repo that implements a usable first stab at the personal relay you described in your "Gossip Model" page on your website.

It's docker based and lets anyone who can spin up a vanilla linux VPS have a strfry-based personal nostr relay up and running in about 10 minutes.

The repo is here: https://github.com/pjv/strfry_personal_docker

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I'm building a WordPress plugin that is a small nostr client that allows sending WordPress content to Nostr from within the WP post editor. First public release on Github: https://github.com/pjv/wp-nostr.

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Haven’t. Will look into it

Also rocketchat which I deployed instead of zulip when I evaluated them both, but if I had it to do over again now without the friction of user lock-in, I'd probably go with Matrix.

Word.

Mike Dilger ☑️

Several people have offered, but I worry about chain of trust / custody issues. I'd really rather compile it myself on a macbook so users aren't trusting another person who might inject a backdoor or something.

#[0] I have not tried this on a linux box (I use a mac), but I think you might be able to easily build for macos using cargo-bundle: https://github.com/burtonageo/cargo-bundle

I'm compiling gossip from the repo, but early on out of curiosity I installed cargo-bundle, created a simple Cargo.toml and then was able to generate a stand-alone app bundle for macos that worked fine.

cargo-bundle says it cross-compiles with a simple --target flag so my guess is that you would be able to pretty simply build at least for intel macs. On a quick glance through the repo I'm not sure if it can cross-compile for apple silicon yet. There's an open issue about implementing fat binaries that would run on both intel and apple silicon macs.

If you want to try it, I'll test for you. I have both an intel mac and an apple silicon mac.

The TwitterFiles have revealed a vast censorship industrial complex, involving collusion between governments, corporations, academia, media, and NGOs.

Institutions are waging information warfare against their own citizens.

People are earning high salaries as censors or “internet hall monitors”, and they all seem to think they’re doing something important and good.

It’s the banality of evil.

Actually in this case seems more like the evil of banality.

Also, now you can follow yourself in the latest Amethyst to see your posts in your home feed, for both new threads and conversations.

Thanks for this!

Here's a personal relay strfry write policy in python: https://github.com/pjv/strfry-python-write-policy

#[0] If I'm no longer seeing posts from my fediverse follows through the relay.mostr.pub bridge (were working initially, then stopped without changing any of my configuration in my clients), how can I try to debug this?

Never mind; I found your post that explained what happened and re-set my follows and see their posts again.

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#[0] If I'm no longer seeing posts from my fediverse follows through the relay.mostr.pub bridge (were working initially, then stopped without changing any of my configuration in my clients), how can I try to debug this?

indeed. Didn’t work for me. Every “diet” is a religion, even keto/carnivore.

It's not the diets, it's the humans. Every crypto currency is a religion. Every political leaning is a religion. Every technology for communicating with other humans is a religion. Every sports team. Every music group. Every media star. Every billionaire...

Mike Dilger ☑️

Is this via gRPC?

No, strfry and the plugin(s) simply communicate via stdio. The plugin is an executable in any language that can deal with input on stdin and write output to stdout. I wrote mine in python.

Here's the brief documentation: https://github.com/hoytech/strfry/blob/beta/docs/plugins.md

Mike Dilger ☑️

I'm glad to hear that.

I would allow anything that has a p-tag mentioning me. This however allows spammers to simply address me, just like they do with email. So there needs to be at least an option to only allow senders who are on my latest contact list (which the relay should have, so it shouldn't need to be a list in a config file). I would prefer not to turn on that option, but in that case there needs to be ways to block spam based on filters and modest proof-of-work [probably not paid accounts since nobody is going to pay just to send me a message, are they?]

I don't think that strfry currently exposes enough through its plugin framework to implement the anti-spam ideas here (which I agree will be essential). Or if it does, it's currently undocumented.

What it does is let you build a simple (non-stateful) "write policy" plugin that gives you the incoming event (with some metadata like IP address, etc) and lets your plugin decide whether that event should be accepted or not.

The plugin I am currently testing on my instance:

1. lets you define a whitelist of pubkeys that are allowed to post anything.

2. lets anyone post a kind 10002 event

3. lets anyone post any event with a 'p' tag that includes any of the pubkeys in the whitelist

4. rejects writing everything else

strfry seems not to have any "read policy" plugin implementation (yet?). So I am unable to put limits on what people can read.

test

I agree with your assessment. Until and unless twitter provides a reasonable API you shouldn't try to display the cards.

What about scraping the content of the tweet and rendering it sort of like a quoted post? (Maybe that's what you already do - I don't remember and couldn't find any examples of tweet quoting posts in my current timeline).

Or maybe even scraping is too expensive. I can totally live without twitter.

Amethyst doesn't show Twitter preview cards because Twitter requires a full-fat JavaScript browser to get the OpenGraph tags from their HTML. Not even simplified JavaScript libraries work.

The app has to open the cited URL, run all JavaScripts in there and get the second URL to know what the link is about.

It adds risk, processing time, and increases the app size.

Let me know if you all want this, but my opinion is that we should not render Twitter cards until they add their OpenGraph tags to their first HTML result.

This is not hard.

I agree with your assessment. Until and unless twitter provides a reasonable API you shouldn't try to display the cards.

What about scraping the content of the tweet and rendering it sort of like a quoted post? (Maybe that's what you already do - I don't remember and couldn't find any examples of tweet quoting posts in my current timeline).

Mike Dilger ☑️

A few days back this long thread #[0] discussed the gossip model and how people would deal with the censorship of Alex Jones. I don't think I participated in the thread, being weary of the topic. Instead I have written a webpage stating my position so that in the future I can just point people at the webpage:

https://mikedilger.com/gossip-model/

#[0] great document.

I'm working on a write-policy plugin for strfry that will implement most of what you specified in the section on personal relays. Can you expand some of the details of what constitutes "events tagging me"?

Does that include scanning the content of notes for npubs and / or hex pubkeys? Or just looking at 'p' tags?

Any subset of event kinds you have in mind for "events tagging me"?

Mike Dilger ☑️

GOSSIP has a few new things. Delegation (NIP-26) support was added (although shallow, it needs to be deeper still). And there are more Feeds. The feeds will change as we work out the proper UI/UX, but for the moment they mean this:

Main feed - the people you follow, top level posts only

Conversations - the people you follow, including their replies to other threads

Inbox - notes that are direct replies to your notes, or that mention you in the contents

Activity - all notes that tag you, even if you are not mentioned directly in the contents or they are not direct replies (including hell threads)

I know that's not obvious, which is why we are still designing.

Hat tips to #[1] and #[0]

Great refinements. Gossip getting more usable every day.

PS: The Main feed / Conversation split has already been pushed on Master

PPS: Thanks #[0] for the testing infrastructure ;)

It's great, too. Thanks!

Soon … 😅

That looks excellent.

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