Heh, if you want to see the truly insane, check what the aliens are doing in the Zenon Network. Talk about the unknown/uncertainty, good thing I ride those waves like I'm playing Devil May Cry.
And as they say sir
"Not your keys, not your coins"
Liquid is custodial, federated multi sig produces Bitcoin keys that you have no ownership over.
We are Bitcoin, Zenon is Bitcoin's sister network. Maybe the solution to global adoption is outside of the box, a network equivalent to a binary star. You never know.
One day you will see. The consumer will always flock to the simplified user experience. Lightning has too much complexity.
"$ZNN's on-chain processing is a significant improvement over Lightning's channel-based model. No cost unpredictability, No routing issues, No channel setup, No liquidity management, No custodial trade-offs.. reducing everything to a single, non-custodial wallet named Syrius"
In order for Bitcoin global adoption, Bitcoin must first be simplified. Users want a frictionless experience. The awakening is imminent.
Yes this what true decentralization looks like friend lol
If you can buy a big chunk then it means is not pre sold to VCs. There was no presale here sir, fair launched to the community, first appearing on bitcointalk, Satoshis old homeland.
It does not run on Ethereum. wZNN on ETH is just a bridge token.
It is outside of the box thinking because "no extra shitcoin" is an arbitrary rule in a linear thought process, limiting true open potential. You are labeling Zenon on a basic generalization without any diligence sir.
Utility coin ZNN and Fuel coin QSR. Sometimes the solution is outside of the box my good sir.
It's not a shitcoin, it's a decentralized partner network for Bitcoin. Fixing Ethereum's and Lightning's problems in one network.
Friendly reminder that Zenon Network is not a shitcoin, we are just hidden here buried underneath the sea of shitcoins. We are building a network to combine with Bitcoin for the ultimate hybrid megazord. We are the evolution of Lightning not shitcoin!!!!
I'm not using Bitcoin until it's fast and feeless thanks to Zenon Network. I am already free inside and out since a decade ago so I dont care about ideals. Bitcoin is cool but the tech is not there for me yet. The idea is nice but the math has to add up. Sci-fi world will not run on fees I'm sorry no.
Zzzzzzzz I came to battle not whatever this crap is lol booooring
Uhm that's the main problem with Lightning sir, companies have to provide their own liquidity or turn to centralized solutions defeating the whole purpose of Bitcoin. A company like Amazon would need billions in Bitcoin for payments/refunds liquidity and would still have to face routing issues like failed transactions and inconsistant fees. Why would Amazon adopt this for less than %1 of people who don't even spend their Bitcoin?
Ok debate me then, explain why big companies like Epic would want to adopt Lightning with it's liquidity and routing issues vs just sticking with Fiat?
I was listening to nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq3kamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvf5hgcm0d9h8qctjdvhxxmmdqqs879mhq6kkuzh2wk57xdzanl76uem8d7hlyjd7v4a4jcm4u88d8ygjaraye last night and was excited to hear the start of the show talking about Bitcoin gaming. There are parts I fully agreed with and parts that I'd love to debate. The full show isn't about gaming but here's a clip on the conversation around this post:
https://fountain.fm/clip/uLScC0fjdv78OXLZyiE3 (Timestamp 3:03 to 4:30 of The Coinbase Rugs Continue in case my Fountain clip won't load for you.)
nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgqgzx3h mentions early on that Fortnite with sats has always been a dream of his and I couldn't agree more. I think gaming has the potential to make Bitcoin way more mainstream while offering gaming experiences that just can't happen in a fiat world. When done right I even think it's enough to make nostr:nprofile1qy0hwumn8ghj7cnfw33k76twd4shs6tdv9kxjum5wvhx7mnvd9hx2qg4waehxw309ajkgetw9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsqzq3e0gs8jnmued6f2rp4c6vs07xqvs4vs8zpwt82smcdch4txjvq76kl2yj find the time to game! 🤣
Matt goes on to say that Epic Games will never do it because it has to be a challenger to make the move. I think this was a bit hyperbolic because once Bitcoin gaming becomes the standard, Epic will have to do it to keep up with the Joneses. On the other hand I completely understand his point that they may be one of the last to move.
We've already seen smaller studios, like 1047, adopt Bitcoin as a means of bringing users back in when they teamed with nostr:nprofile1qyf8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn6vfjzuem8qqsv73e7h6tndwngn3ccmc74auufpx722ldncw8rl8087hddljyw6mc5ux85g back in 2023 to have Bitcoin added to Splitgate. ( https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/zbd-launches-bitcoin-prize-pool-for-splitgate ) I saw first hand how this invigorated a community around that game for players that had never played it in it's first 4 years of being on the market.
Then came the part that really inspired me to write this post. I've had chatgpt reword the following two paragraphs given my critical view of the project.
Matt mentions that he helped convince Satoshi Games to launch Lightnite with Bitcoin and that it was a massive development sinkhole. I was deeply invested in SG's vision, purchasing an early copy of Lightnite, their original Liquid-based NFTs and even created web properties to promote their game because I strongly supported their mission. Unfortunately, they eventually shifted their focus and moved entirely to Solana.
In my opinion, the move to Solana was not because Bitcoin itself created insurmountable development hurdles, but rather due to business decisions that favored an easier issuance of tokens. As someone who passionately supported their Bitcoin-centric mission, I was disappointed and publicly expressed my frustrations, leading to being blocked by their team on Twitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3I9CWMRf4Y
nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7enjv4jhxur9v43kstnrv9ekztcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqsp4k846d0waujd6m5dj0eyhmdjdn6tqu4xcymtehvjj0kdhd3yfpsjdwlck is a complete antithesis to the concept of Bitcoin in gaming being tough to develop. They launched a modded server on Rust years ago and have continued to build and enhance the experience. Supported by the community through nostr:nprofile1qqstdhxam7rxw5586xjwscsdj24fqhp93kzsh7xvjg7nnhc7mlh9aeczqf2t4 ( https://geyser.fund/project/orange ), they’ve consistently delivered sats directly into players' hands simply for participating.
Remarkably, they initiated this with virtually zero traditional development. Instead, they creatively repurposed existing in-game assets to represent Bitcoin and utilized nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qpq3qv9uflfdn70c0zcccju7uxymwn407xjax4he2uq75qj5dp7klfq5x5rqe vouchers dispensed from in-game vending machines. This innovative setup provided a Bitcoin earning experience without any significant development overhead. Their vision and dedication directly inspired me to invest thousands of hours into Rust.
Inspired by Orange’s mission, I've since developed multiple plugins for Rust, including Orangemart.cs. This plugin allows any Rust server to integrate seamlessly with an LNBits server, enabling players to easily move sats in and out of the game via Discord-sent lightning invoices or payouts with nothing more needed than a lightning address.
Creating this plugin was far from a development sinkhole, it was essentially "vibe-coded," before that was even a term. Leveraging prompts fed into chatgpt, I was able to learn enough about Rust’s modding framework to integrate Bitcoin directly into the game. I completed the first working version with just a few weeks of my spare time, clearly disproving the notion of Bitcoin gaming as inherently difficult or resource-intensive to develop. (I'm certainly no real game developer!)
I've since launched my own Rust server in collaboration with Orange to offer a unique take on the Rust experience. I've incorporated virtual Bitcoin mining that let's players use in-game Bitaxes to "hash" and turn those hashes in for rewards similar to a FPPS mining pool. This then determines the rewards they can claim at the end of the wipe based on the number of shares they turn in. I've found managing a Rust server more work than integrating Bitcoin into the game.
TL:DR - Bitcoin is likely the future of gaming. LLMs will continue to reduce hurdles for development and market forces will eventually push teams to focus on the hardest money as players demand real rewards for their time and effort. This will make cash grabs around issuing your own currency less valuable and further entrench Bitcoin into gaming.
Ok well for this gaming future to happen first we must realize that we can in fact do better than Lightning. Lightning is jank when it comes to large scale, that is why big companies are not adopting Bitcoin payments. If you truly want a gaming future, Bitcoiners need to realize the existence of Lightning's successor, the Zenon Network and evolve. Zenon Network can take us there with infinite scalability and zApps but we can't do it alone. It's time to awaken the beast friends. There is a reason those devs moved to Solana, ZNN will make Bitcoin more capable than even that.
"Labor Market vanishing" sure but guess what, there will always be jobs.. in the virtual world.. virtual world.. virtual world.. because who is going to blacksmith my MASTER SWORD HUH?!?! Did you think about THAT?!
Did you know Galileo was locked up under house arrest for heresy for his earth/sun theory? Do I look like a heretic to you Bitcoiners!!!!!!! Don't be a Zenon denier!