Toccata and fugue in D minor or perhaps Verdi's Dies Irae.
If it's the end of the world then the second one for sure!
1 Corinthians 2:1-2 KJVA “And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”
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So there's this thing - as Christians in theory at least we should agree on most things - speak one Truth in love. Yet oftentimes it's quite different - we all disagree on something whether it's baptism, tithing, Calvinism, original sin, Bible versions, women preaching, eucharist etc.
Yet by focusing on such details we sometimes forget the most important part - the gospel. The salvation. So, especially with strangers - make sure they are saved first and know the gospel.
From the verse above we can see Paul's laser like focus on the gospel.
To my personal surprise - many Christians couldn't formulate it clearly. So to follow my own advice here it is again:
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJVA “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
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No problem. From our disagreement we both can learn more. Since we both take different positions we can't be both right. We can be both wrong though heh.
It's a good opportunity to work on polishing our knowledge and conviction, and thank you for doing it in a polite and civilized manner.
Our question of canon is really only about the NT canon, correct?
Old testament scriptures were all revealed and acknowledged as such long before Jesus was born.
And they are inspired by God. Since the writers even wrote that God told them to write
Deuteronomy 31:9 KJVA “¶And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and unto all the elders of Israel.”
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Isaiah 8:1 KJVA “Moreover the Lord said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Maher–shalal–hash–baz.”
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Notice how Isaiah even writes down that God told him to write down - words of God are all precious and we can learn from everyone of them.
Here we can learn as throughout the whole old testament is that God wanted us to write things down - not an oral tradition but a written tradition.
Yes, I'm carnivore.
I will try your suggestions! Thank you very much!
Before the council of Nicaea it was already known what's scripture and what's not scripture.
Your question is difficult to answer since I can't go ask them about it. But the gospels and epistles were there and recognized as inspired writings. And used as such (copied and disseminated).
And yes - I do believe that the Bible is authoritative because it's the word of God.
There are actually a lot of other smart books written, on morals, life, history etc.
But neither of them carries the same authority as the Bible. And the Bible is unique in this regard as it is the ONLY authority for a Christian.
Once you choose books based on what you deem good or correct and not on their source - you can have multiple authorities. Not a single, trustworthy authority.
Then we have different positions.
Because only the author can say what's canon and what's outside of it.
And yes, different people wrote different things, but it was everything that God wanted us to have. He inspired those men to write it.
Men are fallible, God is not and as such we can only trust God's word not men's words.
So to have this thing so very important to our faith - a book (and remember even Job back in the day lamented he didn't have one) that teaches us about God, tells us his wish and his plan and that let's truth speak for itself.
I agree. As for the word canon, I mean the canon that God established as he inspired the books. Not the one that the RCC claims they have decreed.
RECIPE NEEDED!
Got this bad boy. It's half a young goat, organic and grass fed.
But no Idea how to cook it.
Does anyone here knows how to cook goat meat?
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It doesn't matter at this stage which one, first we need to agree or disagree that there is a canon, a scripture from God to us. Then we can try to identify it.
Let's not skip steps.
Do you see the necessity for the existence of such a canon, and that it could have only be decided by God and created by God and serve specific purpises like instruction, illumination, edification etc.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJVA “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”
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I am having a conversation here on nostr with a person who doubts we have the real canon of scriptures. And I mean it's easy to say such things, since the world tells us this all the time...it started in the garden of Eden with "yea, did God say..." And this attack and onslaught is ongoing now since the beginning of the creation.
But God did give us a book. Since Moses he commanded us to write his words, to keep and to preserve them (each king of Israel had to make his own copy of the law).
The purpose was to preserve what he wants us to know for future generations, to make the man of God perfect.
So when we have the Bible it's not a book men wrote. They just provided the pen. God provided the words.
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Scriptures must be canonized by God for several reasons. And we assume here that God is loving and just.
1. He's the author, which means that he's the one responsible for writing and defining the canon.
2. Everyone will be judged by those scriptures at some point. He can't judge you fairly if you don't have the whole canon or one with mistakes - that wouldn't be just.
3. God promised to preserve his wors into eternity - not one jot or tittle would be lost.
4. We need his word for spiritual growth and he gave it to us - hiding it or taking it away makes no sense.
Now obviously Satan wants us to believe we have lost it, never had it, it's unclear etc.
But it's not.
We have today the word of God in the scriptures. and can use and profit from it.
I think that you might mean a different thing when you say inspiration then me
Let me clarify: when I say inspiration I mean that it's breathed by God, it's his wirds that the writers of the books wrote dow . what he wanted them to write down.
Is that the same way you use the word?
You mean we have no divinely inspired scriptures available? So Paul's, Peters, John's, Luke's writings are all not inspired?
OK, thank you. So I don't quite understand your issue with scripture only?
Could you point out it? Because to me as a scripture only believer it seems very basic and logical and also supported by the scripture itself.
Curious, why would one want to do it? What can you explore with immoralist worth exploring?
There is. Sola scriptura is something I am very much willing to discuss with you if you don't believe in it's veracity.
Are you a Christian btw?
Hello everyone! I hope you are all doing great and will have a wonderful weekend!
Bible verse of the day is
Colossians 2:8-10 KJVA “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
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Never forget that we are complete in Jesus. And to be complete means to lack nothing.
So whatever happens to you to make you think that something lacks in your life always remember this - you are complete in Jesus and you lack nothing.
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Thanks to Jesus. Glad to read about your story. Thank you for sharing! It totally makes sense.
Many people are like you in this regard. They became Christians because of Jesus and the gospel, and then they strayed away because of Christians or the church they joined, or they never had a solid doctrinal foundation.
And after becoming spiritual not religious and exploring all the other options out there they realize that only Jesus saves and he's the answer to all the questions. He is our Lord and God. We are in him and we are complete in him, we lack nothing with him.
That's because he's the true God. The other religions or faitha can't give you that, because they are man-made.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!
