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has anyone thought/written about data-processing services via nostr?

I'm thinking of, as nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc says, a vending machine model.

Money in, data out.

Example:

I publish an event saying I want "X data processed in Y form, will pay Z", services compete to serve me the data back.

Rationale:

I'm integrating audio/video highlights on nostr:npub1w0rthyjyp2f5gful0gm2500pwyxfrx93a85289xdz0sd6hyef33sh2cu4x (cc nostr:npub1kuy0wwf0tzzqvgfv8zpw0vaupkds3430jhapwrgfjyn7ecnhpe0qj9kdj8 nostr:npub18lzls4f6h46n43revlzvg6x06z8geww7uudhncfdttdtypduqnfsagugm3 ); instead of handling the transcription within Highlighter (which is what I'm doing now via the `whisper` model), what if users could query for that specific service and pay for it directly to the right service provider?

Ideally, the user would have no "account" or "balance" on any of the service providers (vending machines don't have balances!), and ideally only the "best" (as understood by the user) is rewarded.

The way I imagine it working is:

* user publishes X event with the job spec

* service providers that can handle that job spec compete to serve it (risk!)

* when service provider serves the data the user pays to the "best" service provider

Ideally there would be no negotiation steps between user<>provider, at least for inexpensive compute.

Obviously there's risk to the service provider here, but it's risk that would be very easy to price/handle for a motivated service provider.

The upside is a transparent, always-on global marketplace for data-processing/compute.

I love this vision! I think this is what we’re moving toward with L402. My best guess is that it will be machines competing to offer data / services to other machines instead of humans. So imagine asking gpt-engineer or some AI assistant to plan a vacation for you or whatever. And in the background it’s calling dozens of APIs/services. One call for weather data to choose a place (paying 100 sats for nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm‘s weather data service), another call to book the flights, another call to Waymo to pick you up, etc.

One q for me is where to begin here? What data or service is valuable enough to justify the paid call. Could be calling another LLM bc the compute costs are real. Could be accessing some valuable data source that’s already paywalled.

Basically where will the L402 takeoff begin?

[New Post] How (Actually) Open AI Wins

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In this essay, I explore why open source AI development is important and how 3 decentralized protocols can provide the infrastructure for a capable swarm intelligence:

- Bitcoin for value

- Lightning Network for payments

- Nostr for data / communications

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Can’t wait to see what comes out of #nostrasia! 🇯🇵⚡️ nostr:note1cgax20p0695474klpsv4fvyd2mfd7sc488lm6tf9dzp3lks2ercsqy404u

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Can’t wait to get this up and running! nostr:note18k2suk5c5gmj59rngmyc7cy2mmhqjf4fr9v5k0c79jtyzy3ymjvsv4py8e

New Nostr News with #[1]​! Lots of big ideas in this one. I particularly enjoyed exploring the convergence of Lightning, Nostr, and actually open AI nostr:note1m48rdl2a7pp82djyv0cr6rr5d5mf06wftz6dlscjapj87lxuyq8s80sd57

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