It's so telling that bitcoiners and shitcoiners are cut from a completely different cloth.

Bitcoiners care about freedom, integrity and separating money from state.

Shitcoiners care only to get in early, pump their bags and dump for fiat to get a lambo.

The fact the vast majority of shitcoiners are absent from Nostr reinforces the view that they are just larping about decentralisation and freedom. "Where's the token?" Most of them belive that mediocre fintech is somehow magically revolutionary technology, because it has the name "decentralised" and "blockchain" in it.

And when shit hits the fan they want guard rails and regulation to save them from their own inability to take personal responsibility.

Can't wait for natural selection to filter out all of these nonsensical beliefs and behaviors.

I'm not referencing a "normal tx", I'm referencing the tx0 self spend that creates the equal sized outputs that entered the Whirlpool transaction.

You say "no shit there are deterministic links in Whirlpool" which is why I'm asking: "Why don't you upgrade to WabiSabi coinjoins so you never create these deterministic links?"

Samourai Toolkit

Whirlpool: Zerolink coinjoin

Stonewall: Fake two person coinjoin

Stonewallx2: Two person coinjoin

Stowaway: Payjoin coinjoin

Ricochet: Extra hops for added distance

A Monero transaction between Bitcoin wallets will obfuscate the money trail. It's a viable solution to breaking the Tx link on your Bitcoin. Better if the vendor you're trying to transact with accepts Monero directly of course.

Chainalysis claims they can de-anonymize a significant portion of Monero transactions. I'm rather dubious toward that claim.

how about join market jam

any comparison with that?

Nvm I don't like it. I saw clozee and boosted.

But then rap 🤢