You’re part of a fraction of a percent of bitcoiners who understand Nostr. And bitcoiners make up a fraction of a percent of the general population. There will be plenty more bad actors in the “then they fight you” stage besides Apple. Arguing that everyone should just give up an ecosystem that they have invested time and money into, and that they have an emotional attachement with is a losing strategy. Yes, those who understand bitcoin and Nostr, and the importance of freedom tech in general get it. But being rude, and telling people they are being sheep is not going to help onboard the average person using an iPhone, or a Googled android device. Look at the big picture… the android vs apple trope is old and tired. Stay classy, Nostr.

Apple pay exists because Apple people have to waste time and energy fighting around an added layer of oligarchy. Zapplepay is great, but entirely unnecessary outside of the domestic abuse relationship people have with this tech company. Again, making excuses for your abuser, and saying that their censorship is somehow beneficial to Nostr development.

You're missing the point DOC makes. Continuing to find new ways to be free of Apple Store restrictions is the way forward, not to give up. Would Zapple Pay have been created if not for Apple trying to stop zaps? Nostr is now more resilient because of this. And we are still zapping.

WoS is very easy; great starter wallet. Blue Wallet is very slick and easy. I downloaded Zeus; good looking, seems easy but, never could connect my LNDhub, and I am sure that’s on me. Strike is very easy, and I regularly send Sats from the other wallets to it. Alby is useful, but I don’t know why, to this day, that I need it. I am still a #noob; my start date was May 1, 2023. Reach out if more quex. nostr:note1tjq9x2rj5le7735nl8ew5uyqm3yvf95rlfpf8lec0ah0jhnsqhvs9xlq77

Compliance and excusing the actions of a corrupt greedy corporation is not fighting the good fight. Sure, there are lots of people left to onboard, and crApple should have clients. They will always be neutered. But these same arguments will not only justify people continuing to use a shitty ecosystem when they have choices, it'll be why they pretend they are somehow doing something meaningful when the inevitably purchase their next iphone. And they will, because apple is a cult, and you guys are in love with your abuser.

I don't expect people to throw away their phones or just swap overnight. That's dumb and unrealistic, but yoh whole post basically said that because Apple doesn't care if all of Nostr left, you should do nothing. You're pretending you're some sort of freedom fighter by staying with a shit company and having to find loopholes just to keep up with the rest of the free world so you can continue funding their greed. You're not. It's Stockholm syndrome.

How much funding and time that's been put into Nostr development has been wasted now finding ways around crApple's restrictions, or tweaking shit to get an app into play store, when it could have been spent developing better web clients and the protocol? Meanwhile we're about a technical decade ahead on Android right now, because resources and energy aren't being wasted sucking Tim Apple's dick or trying to find ways around the king's edict.

You can't change Apple.

You may hate Apple, but switching to a device made by Google and side-loading an open OS will not take them down. Every Nostrich could smash their iPhone tomorrow, and they wouldn’t give a fuck.

The only way to spotlight their hypocrisy is to continue to undermine and subvert their censorship and show the world the power of open-source, decentralized protocols.

If we can’t take it violently out of the hands of big tech, all we can do is by some sly or roundabout way introduce something they can’t stop.

Super bullish on those continuing to build on iOS, and to those sly devs taking Hayek’s approach here. 💜

OMG ITS NOT IN ME RN, when I'm continuing to type in this thread 🤣🤣

But sounds like that would make this more fun? *Jokes

Good night nostritches 💤😴🐈‍⬛

If it’s not, it will be.

Josh you're making me laugh and cry. What is happening 🤣🤣 Bahaha

Men always exaggerate length size 🤣🤣

Got a early birthday present. 👀 Amazon wish lists are so much fun. 😈

Can you guess the size? 🤔💭

Which phone do you own?

Ok here is Hollywood #2 Nostr list, you’re welcome 😂

#nostr

#hollywood

#[3]​ - Morgan Freeman

#[4]​ - Ryan Gosling

#[5]​ - Halle Berry

#[6]​ - Patrick Swayze

#[7]​ - Jude Law

#[8]​ - Will Ferrell

#[9]​ - Denzel Washington

#[10]​ - Scarlett Johansson

#[11]​ - Mel Gibson

#[12]​ - Eric Bana

#[13]​ - Paul Hogan

#[14]​ - Mark Wahlberg

#[15]​ - Beyoncé

#[16]​ - Jack Nicholson

#[17]​ - Matt Damon

#[18]​ - Julia Roberts

#[19]​ - John Travolta

#[20]​ - Ben Stiller

#[21]​ - Christopher Walken

#[22]​ - Harrison Ford

#[23]​ - Chris Pratt

#[24]​ - Robert Downey Jr.

#[25]​ - Bruce Willis

#[26]​ - Jerry Seinfeld

#[27]​ - Matthew McConaughey

#[28]​ - Tim Allen

#[29]​ - Vin Diesel

#[30]​ - Sean Penn

#[31]​ - Steve Martin

#[32]​ - Pierce Brosnan

#[33]​ - Jennifer Aniston

#[34]​ - Cameron Diaz

#[35]​ - Jamie Fox

#[36]​ - Rami Malek

#[37]​ - Kevin Bacon

#[38]​ - Jenna Jamison(as per Derek)

#[39]​ - Cuba Gooding Jr.

Nice, noticed communities in that tab too 👀👀👀 things change fast here lol

Cool 👀 what do people stream on?