Nostr only or something: 6

Do we have a massive list of all the nostr clients that exist?

Cloud is not going anywhere anytime soon. Everyone screaming for self hosting is rarely people who actually run large scale infrastructure.

Cloud infrastructure is a force multiplier for any individual, team or business. Of course it has privacy, 3rd party risk and tons of other implications but waving of cloud like some self hosted devices solve everything is beyond naive.

What we need is to make cloud better, not trying to convince people that they need to become part time sysadmins herding their pet raspis at home.

The amount of cloud infrastructure and rented servers I have deployed would be insanely capex prohibitive. Also it kills half of the startups before they even start if the first thing you do is you need to buy 50k worth of hardware.

Confidential computing, ecash and removing the need for ipv4 space addressing can improve hosted compute by orders of magnitude while still providing much of the same services. The solution is forward, not backwards.

Since a few others announced this support, I thought you should know that the chorus relay supports following lists that contain more than 10,000 users (but less than 15,000, I haven't computed the exact number).

Hmm.. looks like this in my case 😕

Curious, what happens?

Just tried activating Primal wallet... you have to KYC??

Let's start working on a successor protocol. In doing so, we may figure out the flaws that nostr have, or things that can be improved. I have been meaning to write about what I would do if I were to reinvent nostr from scratch, but we can do a proper protocol specification itself. No one needs to implement it of course, it will just be an exercise for us

I'm not sure I should write down these thoughts right now while I'm not sure about them, but if you are reading this apparently I did.

I think nostr may already be doomed for two reasons. And as a result of that, if I conclude as such, it would make sense to start working on a successor protocol. I've been taking some notes about what we should change if we started over, but that's the extent of it, I'm not working on a successor protocol. I'm only working on nostr. So don't misinterpret this note, which just represents some thoughts I've been having.

Reason one is the misaligned incentives of note copying. The incentives are to copy your notes to every relay you can, blast them out everywhere, to get more reach. That incentive doesn't go away until and unless all the clients do the outbox model. But they don't have an incentive to change, and there are people who don't give a fuck about fixing this and argue against fixing it and argue for note copying, and there is no way in a free society to make them care. So we can never fix this, and nostr will always be centralized in practice and never what it could have been. That means nostr is doomed and unfixable and we should make sure to start differently next time so this doesn't happen again.

Reason two is that the seed culture of nostr was far too monolithic: bitcoiners. What a culture develops into probably depends on how diverse its seed was. It's quite hard to get people onto nostr unless they are at least very bitcoin tolerant. Most people (yes, I think most) are put off by so much bitcoin promotion and related posts. Certainly people can follow anybody they want, and make their own independent cultures, perhaps even on a disjoint set of relays. But this isn't likely to happen due to the law of large numbers - there are far more ways for them to encounter and interact with the nest of bitcoiners then to not encounter and interact with them.

These are thoughts I'm entirely unsure about. Maybe I'm wrong in both cases. These are my worries.

Looks like they aren't showing pending transactions.

Medicine is for treating illness. What illness does weed treat?

I don't know who needs to hear this, but weed is just another pharmaceutical.

🌶️ take: we need more nostr "other stuff" developers teaming up and joining efforts in a single project (á la Snort + Iris) instead of flying solo. We have very talented devs that get a lot done by themselves but I think working together can have compounding effects. Better to have a polished app that works flawlessly instead of multiple similar apps with their own bugs and shortcomings.

How do Nostr clients decide whether to render text as Markdown? Is it the presence of a leading header? #asknostr

Thanks, what problems are on your mind?

Wow, a paper written about Nostr!

Amethyst let's you set your feed to people you've muted. I really only use mute for posters filling up my feed with content I'm not interested so it's nice to check every once in a while to see if I want to reconsider.

I've never seen a list of people who've muted me though.

I feel comfortable expressing myself on here.

You lot make me laugh daily.

You lot inspire me.

I learn a lot on here.

Am curious.

Great memes.

Wonderful people.