How many sheds must a man build, before you can call him a man?

Ready for another winter, this shed will hold firewood for the entire season.

Gratulerer fra Norge! 🇳🇴🧡🇩🇰

Well, I’m pretty sure we agree on the important mechanism of PoW. And I agree that the policymakers should have consulted the industry before they wrote this proposal.

I have no direct insight in how this process was conducted, but I do know that it’s common practice when Norwegian politicians have these types of committees that they have an expert panel where the public is represented. As far as I understand, bitcoin / crypto mining was a minor subject in a larger discussion, and that’s probably the reason why the industry wasn’t included. But again, I don’t have the insights here (and I don’t pretend that I do so).

If the government decides to propose such a law, they will have to send the proposal out to a hearing before they vote on it our parliament. So, again, the public be given a chance to speak up.

My first impression when I read your post was that it was inaccurate and a bit speculative with your WORDING IN THE HEADLINE. FUD is not the way.

In your reply to my comment, you wrote “there is almost no will from Norwegian bitcoiners to defend themselves”. This is not only incorrect, but also quite offensive to the people who are trying to build a community and expand the knowledge about bitcoin in Norway.

You might be an expert in your field, but I still find your post and answer arrogant and partially incorrect. If this is how you conduct your work elsewhere, I don’t think you will succeed with this tactic here. In that case, I would prefer that you leave your concerns with “the unwilling Norwegian bitcoiners”.

Glad you enjoyed the beautiful mountains of Lofoten when you were here.

Agreed. 👍🏻

I will have a sit down with a couple politicians from my hometown and talk them through it. It’s easier to reach the ones at the top if you get some of their own to pitch the idea.

My plan is to start with my contacts in Venstre, since they already are against the proposition, and make sure they have the right arguments.

Anyway, building knowledge among the common people are even more important IMO. Hodlers are voters too, and our numbers will hopefully grow to make us an important voter group in Norway like we’ve seen in the US.

This post is speculative and I suggest that we Norwegians own the narrative of this.

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This post is speculative and not accurate.

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Excuse me, exactly how did you become an expert on Norwegian bitcoiners? And how did you learn about the lacking will from us to defend ourselves? I will politely ask you to GFY and stick to your own freedom fight.

There is an active group of Norwegian bitcoiners, many of us met first at OFF 2022 (when I also think I met you in person). We are not many, somewhere between 50-100 persons. There are active writers among this group, who have been published in national media several times. I know that this case have been discussed amongst this group.

Unfortunately not many Norwegians are active on Nostr, and I don’t follow the debate on X anymore. The total number of active nostr users are are probably less than 20 persons.

Most Norwegian bitcoin holders are unfortunately not interested in the political and philosophical side of BTC, they’re only in it for NGU.

The same seems to be the case with many large bitcoin miners. They seldom attend meetups and have not been very visible in the community in general.

In my opinion this political case should be fought by the bitcoin industry themselves. They need to step up and take responsibility. We others will continue doing what we do, building knowledge and our community, writing to media and talking all sorts of people (including politicians).

I myself will continue to spread the Satoshi gospel with the work I do with different podcasts and audio books. And I will ensure that Norwegian hashrate doesn’t drop to zero with my mountain cabin miner.

#norgstr

NORWAY IS NOT GOING TO BAN BITCOIN MINING (or at least I don’t think so) nostr:npub13ajk3hhvqys2ev4y68jwxywgs8fsdsuk4y5gkzs874jdyrccvf5qak2yd9

But politicians are discussing the possibility. This is just democracy in practice, there’s no law proposed yet. A committee has delivered their proposal, but it has not been discussed in our Storting yet.

Hold your horses, keep building cool stuff, spread knowledge, stay humble and stack sats.

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Ingenting avgjort enda, men der er jo flaut at det diskuteres. Heldigvis har vi ett parti som taler dem imot, Venstre. Jeg støtter allikevel det demokratiske prinsippet, politikere får lov å foreslå lover. Det er jo jobben deres, og det norske folk har valgt dem for å gjøre det.

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This is just a proposition from the committee. They ask the government to make a law that bans mining, but it still has to be discussed in our Storting before it actually becomes law.

The discussion in the Storting IS PUBLIC.

I appreciate your concern and engagement, but I find this post a bit speculative. I’m embarrassed of our politicians low bitcoin knowledge, but this is just democracy in practice.

Most people in Norway have similar low knowledge, and they have elected politicians that support their everyday concerns.

I think we should focus on building knowledge in general, arranging bitcoin meetups, spreading the gospel of Satoshi, stay humble and stack sats.

#norgstr

På denne bakgrunn fremmer flertallet følgende forslag:

«Stortinget ber regjeringen utrede et forbud mot utvinning av kryptovaluta i Norge og komme tilbake til Stortinget senest i forbindelse med fremleggelsen av statsbudsjettet for 2025.»

Markets crashing, wife found gold.

#nature #norway #norgstr #foodstr

Depends on where you’re from of course, but the answer is probably “When it became affordable for the common man to own a car”.

In Norway the answer 1971 is more accurate than 1950’s. My father grew up on a farm with horse and carriage in the 50’s. We had to wait until the 70’s and our oil rush before the common Norwegian could afford a car.

The debt based economy made it possible to buy a car with money from the future. You could even buy one for your wife and kids too. And politicians thought cars were a sign of a prosperous society, a town with a lot of cars were successful. They applauded cars in the city center, and made it worse for people on foot (or horse) to make their way around the city.

Cars are a great invention, but they also make us lazy. I love commuting to work on my bike, all year. Snow or rain never forces me to use my car. And I also prefer bike when I go to town for shopping or leisure. I only use my car for longer trips, to the mountains etc.

Probably started sometime around 1971.

Meanwhile in Norway: Not a single politician dears to speak positive about bitcoin, and the general knowledge is embarrassing low. 🙈

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Bought back then, bought just now.

No, this is actually not far from my hometown.

GM! #norgstr #Norway

Nice! 💪🏻

Where do I buy that hat?