Subnostr

I deal with the consequences, what makes you think I don't?

I will use freedom of speech here, because my country has laws regarding limitations on speech.

Am I a loudmouth for freedom of speech in meat space?

Damn straight I am.

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Nice and Kind Vic

gm everybody

Good morning 🌞

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Orange Crush

I'm thinking something else.

1. we monetize nostr events with millisat scale ecash (P2PK)

2. relays collect tiny fees for work. Clients charge tiny event fees for scrolling/new account creation/profile edits/etc. People pay dvms for content filters, search, discovery or other micro services.

3. Bots not people dynamically launch new relays with dynamic fees into competitive landscape of relay hosts

4. People run bot hosts (garage nodes) or friendly VPS cloud hosts run bot hosts. Bots pay bot hosts for machine time with ecash.

Bot father's could collect margins from their bots anonymously or could forgo margin to ensure their bots are maximizing network performance.

A system of this nature would be unstoppable, uncensorable, and un-centralizable.

Interesting concept.

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paulo

Beautiful 😻

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The Bird

you too good sir. I haven't had a chance to look into that site you told me about yet

No rush 😃.

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Orange Crush

Yes! But as of now, The nostriches don't own the cloud services so relays /clients / image hosts can be de-platformed.

We need garage nodes. We need to secure the hardware layer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQoPMrrUuo

All the more reason to educate nostriches on how to spin up their own nodes. Can't be reliant on AWS, Google or any tech giant.

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The Bird

It's that kind of night for charting. Stomach bug kicked the crap (literally and figuratively) out of me for 48hrs. I'm back to work today, and trying to incorporate new things to become more efficient with my time to increase earnings and spend more time with family and less working.

I hope you all had/have a wonderful Thursday out there regardless of where you are in the world, what your political/theological/personal belief structure is. We have more in common than those in power want us to believe. Be blessed out there everyone.

Take care good buddy.

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Ronin

The thing is people will follow the most "reliable" bot, but then you create a problem, it's a bot, it will make a lot of mistakes, people will complain about not being seen, getting wrong flags etc. And the the bot owner is going to make some tweeks to accommodate, so basically this person is in fact responsible for the tagging of behalf of hundred or thousands of people. And your right, it's a privacy concern also.

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Bots need a human hand behind them. Are humans infalible? I think not. Will the bots do dumb shit? Yes, they will. Garbage code in, crap results out.

What makes this worse, is that Rabble is thinking that he's the one for the job.

Not a single human being on the face of the earth is qualified to police another person's speech.

Unless you are a parent to a three year old who says "fuck" a lot.

Then you have a different set of problems.

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unit

Curating your feed exactly the way you want it, is not censorship

Yes. Curate you your feed. Don't let someone else decide what you should and should not see.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=nostr+nazi+bar

In our user research, we found that most people joining Nostr get turned off and leave when they have somebody harass them or when they see harassment. So a way to protect free speech and also address these issues are to provide a way of users to choose labels and filters to shape their experience. It empowers relay operators to choose what they want to host, and users to decide what they want to see in their clients.

Nobody's telling you that you can't say whatever the hell you want on Nostr, but it is giving people tools to shape their social experience.

We see lots of women join Nostr, love what it offers, and then be harassed until they leave. This has happened many times. While you may want a platform which feels like 4chan, lots of others don't. You should be able to have your flamewar fun time while others don't have deal with that.

Nostr is held back because of the reputation of the content on the platform, not the quality of the apps and features of what we're doing. I'm saying, we should be able to use the protocol with communities of many norms.

Look at how many people are accusing Nostr with being a pro-nazi platform...

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Ronin

It's not just not seeing, its your content gets tagged, with time and more bots your notes will be labbed accordingly to this bots, and it almost becomes part of the protocol, and you don't know if the labelin is fair at all, imagine your content being labeled "racist" and people might follow you or not based on that. A client might show your profile with those tags.

People can do this as an attack if the don't like you. Flag you out of spite.

Just gives tools to oppress.

I don't expect my message to find a place in people's minds. But I do mind my messages getting flagged for benign reasons. Smacks of boot licking, daddy govt worshipping.

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VahanBego

GN Friends

Good night

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Nobody's asking you to use this bot. Nobody's asking you to follow it. Just like nobody on Nostr has any obligation to host or view your content.

No one is asking for this bot but your Google gods.

Just admit that you are an agent, a fedboi.

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Look, if somehow i managed to convince all the nostr devs and folks managing the nostr nip process to do this, then you could just make versions of the apps and spec which didn't do that. We're an open source permissionless decentralized protocol.

Why is it you get to reply to me but i can't reply back to you? Do you not like the nostr:npub14h23jzlyvumks4rvrz6ktk36dxfyru8qdf679k7q8uvxv0gm0vnsyqe2sh events? Why not make a bot that reports all the reports. Or use a client that doesn't choose to read them. You're choosing to see this stuff you're upset with. Just don't.

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node

Young Hilary…right?! 😂

Naw. 😁

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Censorship is about suppressing speech, but somehow you're saying that my speech, which you're choosing to see, is suppressing your speech? Just use an app that doesn't support kind 1984 events. Use relays that don't support kind 1984 events. Mute bots you don't like.

You also might want to google me before you think that my projects are doomed or that I've just appeared on the scene. ;-D

Just Google me bro.

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node

It would stop you from thinking censored words 🤯

Hillary Clinton in a white bikini.

Report that thought.

I just gave you all the heebee newbies.

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I’m not the snowflake demanding somebody else stop using Nostr how they like. You’re the one demanding I stop posting stuff on Nostr that you don’t like.

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Show me please where I demanded such a thing.

I will say that your bot is a work of ass-kissery.

Never said take it down or stop.

Code is free speech too.

Just don't expect people to praise your brand of bullshit code.

People judge one another by the content of their speech.

Yours is full of , "I'm gonna tell on you!"

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I’m not the snowflake demanding somebody else stop using Nostr how they like. You’re the one demanding I stop posting stuff on Nostr that you don’t like.