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Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

It's actually kind of shocking how polarized my Twitter/X feed has become.

So many people who were technical developers, capital allocators, thoughtful geopolitical commentators, etc are now just outright tribalists.

-Some of them are direct anti-Palestinian. Not just anti-Hamas, but outright against Muslims existing in Israel.

-Some of them are direct anti-Jew. Not just anti-Zionist in the sense of being critical of the modern state of Israel and its border rights. But instead just like, actually anti-Jew.

I hate to see this. The truth is not necessarily in the middle (ie "moderation" may itself be wrong by assuming the middle is correct), but perhaps more concerningly, many people can't even steelman their opponent's view. In the best of worlds, you should be able to explain the most intelligent version of your opponent's view, and then deconstruct it by explaining how it's wrong.

I see little of that. Hardly anyone can do it. My feed is now mostly like 90 IQ tribalist stuff, even from 120 IQ people. It's sad to see. I rarely see anyone who can steelman the Palestinian case and then explain why Israel is right, or steelman the Israeli case and explain why the Palestinians are right.

I have my own personal views, first and foremost toward the civilian children, and secondarily toward land rights, but perhaps my biggest view thirdly is to criticize the sheer polarization that has occurred. Everyone is sure, but few can particularly explain the dilemma in detail in such way that acknowledges their smartest opponents views and then builds their own case against that. Almost everyone is instead polarized and tribal now.

Is it the platform or the nature of online (de-humanized) discussion beyond a given scale?

In other words, are we fucked?

Replying to Avatar Ademan

Yeah that was me, I disagree with most of nostr:nprofile1qqsve2jcud7fnjzmchn4gq52wx9agey9uhfukv69dy0v4wpuw4w53nqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqs7amnwvaz7tmwduh8xarj9e3hyqg6waehxw309aex2mrp0yhx7unpdenk2urfd3kzuer9wc5cyenz 's objections, but if we had key delegation I could have replied to this days ago when it was fresh 😉 (I was away from my key-carrying PC, because key handling is so important).

It's kind of a moot point anyway because we don't have 6 months like I mistakenly thought, but instead more like 6 weeks.

I like that it sparked some interesting discussions 😃

My opinion is that mailing lists UX is better simply due to the decades of e-mail development and its ubiquity. For that UC probably nostr is not the best fit. Even though it would certainly be capable.

But just because something is possible doesn't mean it needs to be done.

Siguen aceptando bitcoin en El artesano italiano?

PP are falling in the trap, let's see what happens.

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Replying to Avatar Matthew Bennett

A summary of Sánchez's proposed amnesty law for Catalan separatists in English for you:

🔴Vox: to file criminal complaint against Sánchez

🔴Vox: to seek urgent Supreme Court injunction

🔴PP: Sánchez "has filed the paperwork to become a totalitarian"

1. Applies to all crimes related to Catalan separatist, independence or secession process

2. Between 2012 and 2023

3. Judges get two months to put it into practice, "urgently"

4. With a special mention for the 2014 referendum (Artur Mas) and the 2017 referendum (Puigdemont)

5. All crimes related to promoting, procuring, organising or executing any kind of independence of Catalonia, or collaborating or assissting to do so in any way

6. All crimes related to money, the misuse of public funds, or abusing the authority of public office

7. Contempt of court, public order offences, attacking police officers, resisting arrest, blocking police ofciers, abuse of authority, public criticism of authorities

8. NOT INCLUDED: murder, serious assault, torture, inhumane traetment, terrorism, treason, crimes against the financial interest of the EU, racism, antisemitism, anti-gypsyism

9. Amnesty means: crimes do not exist, release from jail or detention, elimination of criminal record, arrest warrants and search orders expire immediately, bail conditions expire immediately, no administrative fine processes

10. Amnesty also means any public workers involved also get their jobs back with full rights and a clean record

11. There is a paragraph on page 16 that makes sure to point out that there will be no restrictive bail measures of any kind, or jailing of anyone on remand, even if someone appeals the process, or tries to argue it is unconstitutional

12. Amnesty bill modifies Criminal Code, adding "amnesty" to list of reasons criminal responsbility is extinguished.

13. Amnesty bill modifies Accounting Tribunal Act, adds "amnesty" to list of reasons financial responsibility is extinguished.

14. In very long preamble, government argues the law is constitutional because it is "singular" and applies very spefically to a well-defined set of circumstances.

15. Government argues that the bill is needed to deal with an "exceptional situation" in "the general interest" in order to foster greater political and social coexistence in Spain.

16. Government argues that if the amnesty were not to go ahead, social and political tensions with Cataln separatists could continue into the future.

17. Spanish government argues that other European countries and European law back the principle of amnesty. Cites Italy, France, Portugal, Germany, UK, Austria, Belgium, Ireland and Sweden.

This was refreshing, to see a post about a topic other than nostr itself, bitcoin or alt-right 🫂

About mirroring: while that is certainly possible, I guess a community such as bitcoin-dev, needs guarantees that the messages will be kept "forever". They could spin their own relays which would focus on mirroring that community, but that's possible the same effort as a separate mailing list server, with arguably worse UX.

I'm just a n00b, but would private key derivation from a bitcoin address or PGP key (or both, I guess every bitcoin developer has both), solve the key issues? Clients would need to coalesce notes from keys that derive from a given parent key as belonging to the same account.

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2023-November/022152.html

Interesting comment by Peter Todd when discussing the possible use of nostr as a new protocol for the bitcoin-dev mailing list. His comments are not particular to that usage though:

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Strong NACK on nostr. It's a badly designed, centralized, protocol that needs a

significant redesign to be usable. While off topic for this mailing list, some

of its many issues include:

* Reliance on single-key, cryptography that often results in people having

their keys compromised. This is a serious problem in the context of

bitcoin-dev, where faked messages published could easily have market-moving

results.

* Inability to mirror relays: since nostr deliberately ignores the lessons of

blockchains, there is no way to be sure that you have a complete set of

messages from a given person, for a given topic, etc.

* Highly centralized design: since mirroring relays isn't reliable, in reality

nostr operates in a highly centralized fashion, dependent on a tiny number of

relays that can't be easily replaced if taken down.

"

He was replying to this proposal by nostr:npub19jescdjr3wk552j3q77f3awwhe4qy2ds24xce773exd28nr7emqsm2pt7r (I believe).

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Qué envidia de los portugueses 😃

Maybe people-societies matter more than state-nations? If we think of nations the embodiment of large agglomerations of societies, then I would say a system that lets a given nation profit from another just because of something that happened centuries ago is unfair, and we would be better off without it.

Something more granular and balanced would be fairer.

Of course, some people just want to get rich with their early investment, some people do not want to pay taxes... I see those two things as mostly orthogonal to the point above: get rich quick is probably a marginal characteristic of any open market. Taxes can be levied in a Bitcoin economy.

Test, 1, 2, 3.

Replying to Avatar Vitor Pamplona

### #Amethyst v0.79.6: #TheNostr is up

- Adds #thenostr hashtag icon by nostr:npub1nxa4tywfz9nqp7z9zp7nr7d4nchhclsf58lcqt5y782rmf2hefjquaa6q8

- Stops PushNotifications when the app is killed.

- Dump memory states to debug OutOfMemory Errors

- Adds orange color for the right axis in the notification summary chart

- Forces a filter reset after NIP-42 authentication for inbox.nostr.wine

- Avoids verification of the signature when the id or sig fields are blank

- Adds exception handling for parsing geohash by nostr:npub168ghgug469n4r2tuyw05dmqhqv5jcwm7nxytn67afmz8qkc4a4zqsu2dlc

- Hides/Shows buttons when clicking the image/video on the full screen dialog

- Fixes Amber's double encryption on nip04 and nip44 by nostr:npub1w4uswmv6lu9yel005l3qgheysmr7tk9uvwluddznju3nuxalevvs2d0jr5

- Fixes Mute list feeds by nostr:npub1e2yuky03caw4ke3zy68lg0fz3r4gkt94hx4fjmlelacyljgyk79svn3eef

- Fixes bug of not immediately loading some chat rooms

- Fixes bug of messages not reappearing after memory trimming.

- Fixes visibility of the bottom and top bar when the user comes back to the app

- Fixes failure to load long form content with d tags using reserved url chars

- Fixes duplicated entries on relay list of Notes

- Renders Base64 images on from any image tag.

- Fixes the video position transition between full/regular screens

- Updated translations for cs/de/sv by nostr:npub1e2yuky03caw4ke3zy68lg0fz3r4gkt94hx4fjmlelacyljgyk79svn3eef

- Moves the Post button on chat screens to a > Button

- Other minor code changes

Download:

- [Play Edition](https://github.com/vitorpamplona/amethyst/releases/download/v0.79.6/amethyst-googleplay-universal-v0.79.6.apk )

- [FOSS Edition - No translations, no notifications](https://github.com/vitorpamplona/amethyst/releases/download/v0.79.6/amethyst-fdroid-universal-v0.79.6.apk )

Impressive work 👏👏