Payments apps should use bits and sats
bitcoin the unit is useless for wallets, payment apps etc. It is impossible to count with
Let’s use bits and sats as unit of accounts : both are useful
Let’s drop bitcoin the unit, it is useless
Probably it will happen anyway, slowly, nobody will use it, it will be just 1 mio bits
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Let’s get rid of bitcoin as a unit
Let’s keep the word for the network
bits & sats ; 1 bit = 100 sats
Simple, bit is the easiest as unit of account, now and in 20 years as well, sats is kept as grew organically, nice, and we will need cents at some point
We don’t need bitcoin the unit, it is just 1 mio bits and we can count with bits for small as big transactions
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Keep the sats
Keep the bits
If payment app, drop bitcoin the unit, it is just 1mio bits, wholecoiners are millionaires in bits
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Now nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdu0k0t75 is pushing BIP-177 to change satoshis to bitcoin.
Are these people crazy?!
Turning 21 million bitcoin into 2.1 quadrillion “bitcoins” isn’t just bad branding—it completely nukes the most important meme in Bitcoin’s history.
This isn’t just a bad idea.
It’s a recipe for confusion, dilution, and long-term cultural fragmentation.
We’ve spent 15 years building absolute clarity around one of the strongest memes in monetary history:
21 million Bitcoin. 100 million satoshis each.
Simple. Elegant. Untouchable.
And now, right on the edge of global adoption—now—they want to rewrite the script?
This doesn’t feel like UX optimization.
It feels like a narrative hijack.
A subtle takeover—not of the protocol, but of how people think about Bitcoin.
And that’s just as powerful.
Maybe I’m paranoid.
But changing the unit, the name, and the supply right before mass onboarding doesn’t just feel tone-deaf—it feels strategic.
Like rewriting the map while millions are just beginning to find their way.
I’ve never heard anything more short-sighted, more dangerous, or more fundamentally disconnected from what makes Bitcoin work.
It’s not a UI bug.
It’s a memetic monument.
You don’t demolish it for clicks, smooth UX, or vanity campaigns.
You protect it—because mass adoption is coming.
And what people adopt must be the truth, not a convenient lie wrapped in “accessibility.”

I think we need a unit for 100 sats
It is much simpler to think to spend about something worth 0.1 usd or 1 usd (in 5 years) than worth 100k usd or 0.1 cents
I am not sure calling it bitcoin would be a problem. There would be 21 trillions bitcoins (at 100 sats a bitcoin) in line with US M2 now (and less us M2 tomorrow
Satoshi (I know it is not an argument but it shows some people not hostile to Bitcoin or stupid) mentioned possibility of changing decimals for the unit
Let’s do 1 bitcoin = 100 sats
- We keep the sats as cents
- We can spend and receive bitcoin for everyday transactions, zaps, etc
- bitcoin easy also as unit of account like this at 10 cents now
- When market cap bitcoin = current M2 money supply, 1 bitcoin = 1 usd
Maximum will be 1 bitcoin = 10 (current non further diluted) usd
- sats remain, similar to cents and are here when further subdivision needed
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By spend and receive bitcoin I mean « units » we call bitcoins instead of calling them sats cause more practical obv.
Let’s do 1 bitcoin = 100 sats
- We keep the sats as cents
- We can spend and receive bitcoin for everyday transactions, zaps, etc
- bitcoin easy also as unit of account like this at 10 cents now
- When market cap bitcoin = current M2 money supply, 1 bitcoin = 1 usd
Maximum will be 1 bitcoin = 10 (current non further diluted) usd
- sats remain, similar to cents and are here when further subdivision needed
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We should introduce a split, but not 1 Bitcoin = 1 sat
We should have : 1 Bitcoin = 100 sats.
There are several advantages to this:
• 1 Bitcoin = $0.10, making it easy to price everyday goods directly in bitcoins.
• This results in 21 trillion bitcoins, roughly aligned with the US M2 money supply and global M0, making comparisons intuitive. Bitcoin’s total market cap = M2 money supply when 1 Bitcoin = $1.
• We retain sats for divisibility, similar to dollars and cents — something people are already familiar with.
People will find this split much easier to grasp, and sats remain. A current full coiner becomes a millionaire in the new system, and within a year, everyone adapts. We could call 1 million bitcoins a “nak” if needed, but that will likely fade over time.
Overall, it just feels like the right move.
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Other advantage is the typical zap would go from 21 sats to 1 bitcoin which is less cheap, and the generous zap to 21 bitcoins which becomes significant
We should introduce a split, but not 1 Bitcoin = 1 sat
We should have : 1 Bitcoin = 100 sats.
There are several advantages to this:
• 1 Bitcoin = $0.10, making it easy to price everyday goods directly in bitcoins.
• This results in 21 trillion bitcoins, roughly aligned with the US M2 money supply and global M0, making comparisons intuitive. Bitcoin’s total market cap = M2 money supply when 1 Bitcoin = $1.
• We retain sats for divisibility, similar to dollars and cents — something people are already familiar with.
People will find this split much easier to grasp, and sats remain. A current full coiner becomes a millionaire in the new system, and within a year, everyone adapts. We could call 1 million bitcoins a “nak” if needed, but that will likely fade over time.
Overall, it just feels like the right move.
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À Londres je connus Bella,
Princesse moins lointaine
Que son mari le capitaine
Qui n’était jamais là
PJ Toulet
À Londres je connus Bella,
Princesse moins lointaine
Que son mari le capitaine
Qui n’était jamais là
PJ Toulet
Also if it’s not used as money, it will most likely be a much weaker store of value as if it is used in people’s daily life
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La vie est plus vaine une image
Que l’ombre sur le mur.
Pourtant l’hiéroglyphe obscur
Qu’y trace ton passage
M’enchante, et ton rire pareil
Au vif éclat des armes;
Et jusqu’à ces menteuses larmes
Qui miraient le soleil
Mourir non plus n’est ombre vaine.
La nuit, quand tu as peur,
N’écoute pas battre ton cœur:
C’est une étrange peine
Paul-Jean Toulet
(French poetry undefeated)
Obviously on top of the bitaxe(s) and still solo mining !
Running a bitaxe at 1.2 th is the least you can do as a bitcoiner. It costs you ~ 2 to 5 usd per month electricity and 100 to 200 usd upfront and helps decentralize mining and maybe you win one block and are rewarded
Then the question is do you go bigger and run a 40th avalon that costs 1200 usd and 100 usd elec per month ? Probably if you can you should !
I mean it has to be individuals selling as those are the only ones who historically had it
Businesses etc had 0. So the sellers are individuals and not necessarily shrimps, probably whales and it is healthy
Every bitcoiner should cheer competition at the software / implementation level
Believe bitcoin still has x5 this cycle and then won’t go down same as previous bears, only /2 or maybe /3 at max not /4
Key to getting good at something is to reach the minimum level where you start enjoying it and get an ego boost from seeing your progress
Does it change significantly versus borrowing against ETF? Or do you mean to leverage within the company so better terms?

