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Also important to mention: the Yellow Peas are decorticated.

This recipe also includes 10g of Dehydrated Bull Kelp (Durvillaea potatorum), which appears to have disappeared from the list temporarily! You could possibly double this dose.

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1kg per day or 1kg per 6 days? I never thought of it as a feed per egg production. That is an interesting concept

1kg dry will last 10 birds about 6 days.

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When re-reading my post above I realize I wasn't clear. I know I won't produce all my own food. I want to focus on quail for meat and eggs. The food I was talking about was only for the quail. It seems you have a really good insight into quail nutrient and health requirements. Feel free to answer as much or as little as you want.

Do you know if the below would be close to a complete nutrient food source for quail? Is any of it redundant? How much of each would be needed for one or 10 or 100 quail per day? Feel free to respond in whatever magnitude of quail or time makes sense. No need to do it for each number of quail.

hybrid willow leaves,

amaranth greens,

sun flower greens,

Jerusalem artichoke Greens, dandelion greens,

Squash(pumpkin or spaghetti squash)

Sweet potato greens

amaranth grain(sprouted or dry),

sunflower seeds(sprouted or dry), sun choke tubers(cooked or raw),

worms

I could get fresh water clam shells from local lakes

I could supplement iodine and salt if that is a major concern.

I'm open to including some feed but would prefer to set it up to be self sustaining.

I would probably make bone broth and feed it to them to drink also adding LAB bacteria, from yogurt whey, in the water. I plan to have them by a window and also with a grow light over part of the cage.

Thank you for your time so far.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01652176.2020.1857887#d1e389

Here is a more comprehensive and up-to-date presentation of nutritional requirements for poultry. Some of the values in that Table are a bit skint. You can definitely send some things harder.

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Here's the lentils and peas note. It appears I linked the phytochemicals note twice, using different note IDs . . .

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When re-reading my post above I realize I wasn't clear. I know I won't produce all my own food. I want to focus on quail for meat and eggs. The food I was talking about was only for the quail. It seems you have a really good insight into quail nutrient and health requirements. Feel free to answer as much or as little as you want.

Do you know if the below would be close to a complete nutrient food source for quail? Is any of it redundant? How much of each would be needed for one or 10 or 100 quail per day? Feel free to respond in whatever magnitude of quail or time makes sense. No need to do it for each number of quail.

hybrid willow leaves,

amaranth greens,

sun flower greens,

Jerusalem artichoke Greens, dandelion greens,

Squash(pumpkin or spaghetti squash)

Sweet potato greens

amaranth grain(sprouted or dry),

sunflower seeds(sprouted or dry), sun choke tubers(cooked or raw),

worms

I could get fresh water clam shells from local lakes

I could supplement iodine and salt if that is a major concern.

I'm open to including some feed but would prefer to set it up to be self sustaining.

I would probably make bone broth and feed it to them to drink also adding LAB bacteria, from yogurt whey, in the water. I plan to have them by a window and also with a grow light over part of the cage.

Thank you for your time so far.

Hard to give an accurate ball park figure for food-bird-egg-day stuff because of nutrient and bird size variability, but I'll have a go:

1kg dry feed (you could work backwards to wet)

10 birds

6 days

55 eggs

11–13g per egg

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When re-reading my post above I realize I wasn't clear. I know I won't produce all my own food. I want to focus on quail for meat and eggs. The food I was talking about was only for the quail. It seems you have a really good insight into quail nutrient and health requirements. Feel free to answer as much or as little as you want.

Do you know if the below would be close to a complete nutrient food source for quail? Is any of it redundant? How much of each would be needed for one or 10 or 100 quail per day? Feel free to respond in whatever magnitude of quail or time makes sense. No need to do it for each number of quail.

hybrid willow leaves,

amaranth greens,

sun flower greens,

Jerusalem artichoke Greens, dandelion greens,

Squash(pumpkin or spaghetti squash)

Sweet potato greens

amaranth grain(sprouted or dry),

sunflower seeds(sprouted or dry), sun choke tubers(cooked or raw),

worms

I could get fresh water clam shells from local lakes

I could supplement iodine and salt if that is a major concern.

I'm open to including some feed but would prefer to set it up to be self sustaining.

I would probably make bone broth and feed it to them to drink also adding LAB bacteria, from yogurt whey, in the water. I plan to have them by a window and also with a grow light over part of the cage.

Thank you for your time so far.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336926989_Canola_meal_as_an_alternative_dietary_protein_source_in_quail_Coturnix_coturnix_diets_-A_review

I think a good leaping-off point might be to look at Table 1 in this article, which was adapted from an earlier article. You could also look around for other papers to cross-reference and perhaps challenge these stipulations, particularly more recent papers.

I would then use https://tools.myfooddata.com/ and investigate each individual plant you are considering—you might find several of them, or at least a decent proxy.

Clam shells sound like a great solution for calcium! :)

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I found some road kill on the road and threw it to the chickens. They ate everybit of it and are working hard on the bones! There is not much left. I fear that if I fell on the ground no one would find me!

That's amazing. What a feast (you might be)! Haha.

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We are moving to a new house. My vision is to produce my own meat and eggs without outside resources. I won't achieve this quickly. Plan is to have protein fodder trees, amaranth for greens and grain, Jerusalem artichokes for greens and tubers, sunflower for greens and grain, worms for compost and feeding to quail. I plan to feed greens and worms when available and then dried greens, tubers, and sprouted grains in winter. Any major nutrients you think I'm missing? I'll have feed as back up and provide a little for consistency maybe but not sure if I'd need to. Any insight you have would be appreciated.

Sounds dreamy! Certainly seems doable. Having a solid animal protein source through winter would seem to be prudent to me. I presume it will be cold and the worms will be less available in winter? What about other insects? Will you be hunting and fishing or raising beasts? If there is a way to have some animal protein and animal fat on hand, you would be ticking a lot of boxes like fat soluble vitamins, B12, lysine, methionine, etc.

My covey love dandelion greens, so that might be a cool addition that grows itself. Haha. Is growing lentils an option? They are quite performant on the protein and micronutrients front. Peas come in at second best too. You might even get away with these as the major protein source for winter as the hens will stop laying for a while. But then if you do do that, you will need to be mindful of fat. You could send sunflower seeds at them I suppose, but that is a lot of polyunsaturated fat, too much for my liking. But it could get you through winter. As long as you are hitting 4–5% fat, and 16–24% protein (higher end if plant-based) then they should be groovy in winter.

You could also think about plants that are accumulators of iodine. Quail need iodine and salt . . . Salt source?

If they are getting sun, they should be sweet on the D3 front.

You will want to think about calcium too. I am blessed to have tiny snail shells everywhere here. And cuttle bone within walking distance. They will need a little extra on top of their egg shells and whatever they can get from greens.

So yeah, high calcium greens that accumulate iodine but that are not high in oxalic acid would be useful!

Perhaps you could tick a couple of boxes at once by rearing insects with calcium-rich shells.

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Have you ever mathed it out to know how much price per pound you're at?

No I haven't.

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How do you source that?!

Oh yeah, for the liver I find a beast and dehydrate its liver. Dogs tend to be very interested in the dehydrator on this day. Haha.

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How do you source that?!

I juat look around for the quality and price I like. This is where I am currently sourcing them from:

Yellow Peas — Supermarket.

Raw White Rice — Supermarket.

Paprika — Spanish stuff from an Indian shop.

Dehydrated Pilchards — I buy a block (for bait) from the petrol/gas station and dehydrate them. Western Australian pilchards.

Flax Seeds — Supermarket.

Grass-Fed Butter —Supermarket, from New Zealand.

Coconut Oil — Supermarket.

Dehydrated Bull Kelp — vitec.com.au

B.V.M Probiotic Powder — Lots of places online have it.

Iodised Salt — Supermarket.

Other herbs and spices —Indian shop or Supermarket.

Onion powder—peel from onions from the Market or the Garden.

Olive Leaves — Garden.

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Do you have any insight into Japanese quail vs the typical coturnix quail I see people raising. I would like to find a hardy and good egg layer that is easy to care for and an ok meat bird. Mostly looking for eggs.

The Japanese quail and the Coturnix quail are the same lovely creature. They are easy to care for—20 mins or so per day would do it, providing you aren't mixing your own feed or rearing young. You will probably want to spend more time with them anyway as they are fun and cute to hang out with. They are amazing egg layers. They send about 300 per year. And they are TASTY. Pretty yummy meat birds too, if you end up with too many roosters. The roosters also make very cool crowing sounds which bring a smile to my face. Highly recommend these birds. Very beautiful looking. Hardy too.

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Very excited to have found your content here. This is awesome. So are you mixing your own feed?