Do you know there's a markdown format for reference links? It's not implemented yet but it might be good to use in wait for it to be supported. Or you might want to keep a list of articles you've put reference links in so you can convert them when support is implemented.

I'm not trying to nitpick, I need your thoughts on how you'll want to handle this because I'm working on my NIP-157 for agreeable formatting standards

That's impossibpe

I hope as time goes on people will get more and more wary and weary of article link spam on this platform with no character limit

NIP-23 beats HTML as an article format already imo

What a time to be alive

Today I learned

Thank you for being reasonable. For some reason I didn't get a notification of this reply so I was delayed seeing it, but luckily it is showing up for me. Saving your npub to keep an eye out for your posts 🤙

I don't see that as censorship resistant. Internet infrastructure the public paid for doesn't serve the public and telling members of the public they're on their own fixing it isn't magically an improvement. Nostr however has the potential in the future to bring infrastructure back to where it was at its peak and beyond, that will be censorship resistance

Last time I configured relays I set nos.lol as my main one, and that one has seemed functional enough for now, so I haven't changed my settings, but I have been jumping around between different web apps on an old phone and not checking how each web app handles relays. I see it as real-world stress-testing.

I should put it like this, what I see with nostr is some censorship resistance, and a lot of potential for censorship resistance, but not enough censorship resistance.

People hype nostr's censorship resistance up like it's already hit one of these milestones when it hasn't yet:

* Clearly matching the functionality of state of the art electronic communications

* Clearly surpassing the rest, becoming the new state of the art in and of itself

* Pushing the state of the art back to where it was at the peak of human technology, like when Aaron Swartz was still alive at least

* Surpassing the most freedom of speech humans have ever had

No.

I'm speaking for the paranoid here, including myself. When posts aren't always going through correctly, saying "censorship resistance" makes the software issues and slow pace of improvement look extra sus.

That is a huge improvement over a year ago and why I'm all in now 💯

Changing between different relays and web apps didn't help on my shadow banned account. I suddenly stopped being able to send and receive messages and my posts became very rare to actually see loading anywhere after being posted.

I don't feel like finding my account from a year ago and my old screenshots and stuff right now, and it has gotten better in the past year, so with my laziness and your hard work you're about to get some weaker more recent examples of it being hard to get text delivering consistently via nostr.

1. Yesterday I made a long form post and in Primal it linked to a Highlighter page that said "event not found" - so nevent link is not up to par with plain old DNS based link to habla.news which habla.news specifically told me not to use

note1dfv2ayrau90ztv4peuu6jmy8k2mwd56aeya4vnn9w6373guvfhnspw0u30

2. The other day I made a post about a crazy strong WiFi network from a new npub for a bit of anonymity (breaking that now for this discussion) and it didn't show up in search results except from the app I posted it from when I wanted to go back from another new npub to reply with additional details. It now shows up in nostr.band just fine

And a third example I just noticed - my njump.me page has out of date posts

I'm often paranoid about being targeted but I don't think these examples are me being targeted like I felt a year ago. Some of it could be me messing up my relays on my own end and there's probably work being done by people other than me to fix it. Slowly. But this tech still hasn't reversed the decay of free speech quite yet

Not always, but censorship resistance should include accessibility for both spammers and people who want to block spammers

Every nostr client web app seems to use JavaScript and stuff to function on-device and take load off the server backend, so when I have the nprofile link, every client could by default load every post a spam bot has ever made if it has its own relay for the web app to connect to. That would be censorship-resistant

Instead, even if it's a regular person instead of a bot, seeing all their posts might not work reliably across all apps. That's not censorship resistant

If you made an account on reddit 2 years ago, even though reddit was heavily censored, I would have been confident you could message me and have me receive it.

If you didn't want to make an account, I would have been confident you could find someone with an account, have them message me, and have me receive it.

That wasn't censorship resistance, that was a heavily censored level of functionality on a long-zombified reddit years after Aaron Swartz died.

Now I'm on nostr, where I do not suggest expecting messages to get through to me, especially on the mere first or second or third try.

That is not less censored, it's more.

The nostr protocol is designed to have the potential for censorship resistance. It's also a design that gets there very slowly, from what you can see today. Not there yet.

Uncensored queries, hell yeah brother

Can't wait to be able to message my friends and have them get notifications though

Remember the old days when cell phones were good? You could just call me and my phone would ring, that was cool

But we've got uncensored queries, fuck yes

As I asked someone else in the replies - have you never noticed your feed loading inconsistently? Like, has every post always loaded instantly all at once for you? I don't get how you can act oblivious to this being an experimental platform with extra heavy filtering caused by not being finished developing into a public-ready product yet

Have you never noticed your feed loading inconsistently? I don't get it.

When I tried nostr around a year ago my account got shadow banned hard on every relay people actually use. Banning me is the same as other platforms like reddit or whatever, but nostr is worse at this early stage because it's not even reliable to make a new account from a new IP address and device. Last time I tried onboarding someone to nostr face to face was earlier this year, we couldn't find a single web app that would actually let us message each other, new accounts can just be shadow banned by default.

It's gotten to the level where it's starting to be worth using lately. Fiatjaf admitting the issues are there probably helped. But the nostr protocol and network both have a long way to go before there's serious censorship resistance. The current phase is making people aware of the issue and just barely starting to attract users to fully uncensored implementations of nostr so they can start to be functional. The goal is restoring the old internet culture where a sysadmin's job was to make sure humans can talk more than bots, not call power users "spammers"

Someday the US could be like this

Hopefully it's about time for the topic to pick up more

That doesn't make any sense, they're the same thing. How did you decide "plandemic" meant something other than "planned pandemic"