>I have also indicated that there are exceptions so not sure where the myopia stuff is coming from other than your bias based on the grace you have encountered in life ?

It is a fairly round about way of saying "stfu you got lucky"

As for the second paragraph, its what we've been talking about. Yeah, those trends are out there and it does suck, nobody here is saying they dont, but you gotta look through the fog and see what is real. Just because you THINK youre going to get lit up by some random lady doesnt mean that it will. Be a good judge of character and take that chance. We should have things be where there doesnt have to be that thought in the back of every mans mind, but we also have to look after one another and lay it out like it is.

You thinking that every western woman is out fleece every man possible is divorced from reality. What is true is that those women who do look to do that, do have an easy time doing just that with current court systems being what they are. But that fact, or other similar facts, doesnt automatically mean every woman is going to do that.

to be clear though i was not talking about hedonism ... i said it clearly - its about risk/reward.

a marriage is more a business relationship for the rearing of healthy societies and children , as opposed to a "female companionship" sentimentalist rag , whatever the hell that emasculated stuff is ...

western women are, mostly, no longer feminine, and nearly all of them have been infected by a century of feminist ideology - and yes there are exceptions but they simply prove the rule.

gamble away if it suits you...

I think, from this current exchange and with experience with some of my buddies, the prevalence of marijuana might be a factor in the issue. That or just the wide spread use of depressant substances as a whole.

men are increasingly realizing that the western woman is essentially nothing but a liability, and that to get involved with one is to subject oneself to the wicked and biased justice ststem and all the rest ...

tell me , what do western women offer men these days besides pussy ? which they can get , without all the baggage , for a song and a phone call ...

??

whats the risk/reward ratio and why should men extend themselves ?