fuck ive been Connyed again.

I couldnt think of any "non-western" white women.

I mean yeah we do basically agree and its good to have standards.

Only thing different is that I would say dont go after non-white women, itll lead to similar if not worse issues than those you outlined about being raised in a single mother household. Snag a Slav or something maybe idk lol

Before we continue, I want to ask, is English not your first language? I think there might be a bit of a language barrier (really language usage barrier). Im asking cause the way you format your posts is very strange and your word choice is strange. If English is your first language, are you 50+ years old, as Ive noticed the same behavior in people that age on these types of spaces on the internet. I would just like to know before we continue.

I have guys in my life who take this same viewpoint right after rejection or during periods of loneliness, its good practice to talk them out of it.

I mean, yeah, some men can, and thats great. But if every man did that, we'd be dead in a generation. Basically the same logic as ultrafeminists.

If men can muster the determination and force of will to lead a more solitary life in reverence to God or the arts or science or whatever passion might guide them, great!

But of that 45% of men ages 18-25 who are not approaching women, I doubt many of them are pursuing that form of dedication and would in fact like a woman to call their own.

>I have also indicated that there are exceptions so not sure where the myopia stuff is coming from other than your bias based on the grace you have encountered in life ?

It is a fairly round about way of saying "stfu you got lucky"

As for the second paragraph, its what we've been talking about. Yeah, those trends are out there and it does suck, nobody here is saying they dont, but you gotta look through the fog and see what is real. Just because you THINK youre going to get lit up by some random lady doesnt mean that it will. Be a good judge of character and take that chance. We should have things be where there doesnt have to be that thought in the back of every mans mind, but we also have to look after one another and lay it out like it is.

You thinking that every western woman is out fleece every man possible is divorced from reality. What is true is that those women who do look to do that, do have an easy time doing just that with current court systems being what they are. But that fact, or other similar facts, doesnt automatically mean every woman is going to do that.

>tell me , what do western women offer men these days besides pussy ? which they can get , without all the baggage , for a song and a phone call ...

This is what made me call you hedonistic, as I assume it was a flowery way to put "fucking a whore". Please correct me if I am incorrect.

>a marriage is more a business relationship for the rearing of healthy societies and children , as opposed to a "female companionship" sentimentalist rag , whatever the hell that emasculated stuff is ...

This is again, very myopic and sad, you've lost the romantic fire of the Western Man and it shows. Everything is coded down to an exchange of goods and services. She is a hole and you are a pipe simply to exchange thrusts in a purely business relationship. You are not her shield and strength and she your pillow and respite. You are just as emasculated as the women you claim to be de-feminized.

Shit sucks and there are women who will gut you for your money and run, and it fucking blows. But your remedy to chase easy pussy is just switching which table at the casino you're playing at, instead of gambling your money, your gambling your health, and that turns into your money going away all the same.

I think, from this current exchange and with experience with some of my buddies, the prevalence of marijuana might be a factor in the issue. That or just the wide spread use of depressant substances as a whole.

I already have and am happy with what I have. I hope you are able to do away with your current myopic outlook on women. It is WAY worse than what it was when our parents grew up, but success is still out there. Dont overthink it, and go in with long term intentions and less of a horndog mentality.

Children, homemaking or a supplementary income (whatever your household requires), female companionship. Theres probably some more but those are what role off the top of my head from my experience. Western women are still women and can still act as such, and if you can nail them down its definitely a lot more spiritually rewarding than hedonistic skirt chasing.

I agree, and would take it a step further as I dont think phones are the key issue here. Public places where people are moving through have had people distracted by one thing or another before the advent of phones, reading, listening to music, or just trying to get where they are tying to go, stuff like that. If theres actually something going on, people still put away their phones and pay attention to the thing or activity (though they may take a picture which I dont really see an issue with).

The larger problem as I see it is that there arent any places to do approaching, as outside of the bars in the example tweet, which still seem to be as viable as ever, places to do hobbies or activities in person where socialization are either nonexistent or severely skewed towards one sex or the other.

Fair, so why do you think that is? Im inclined to agree with the other post but Im curious if you think theres something else at play.

Drink water, its the muscles contracting due to lack of it. The thinner the muscle structure the easier it is for that to start happening so it starts with they eyelids and the areas near by