My question was actually rhetorical
https://threema.ch/en/faq/server_location
What if a company called twoma offloads the data from threema servers as an offline process, this wont show uo in threemas open source code and then threema does indeed store nothing. Point is I don't trust them
That´s your problem...
Read about the killing of Jan Kuciak 2018 in Slowakia and you will have the proof that Threema stores nothing!
Both has nothing to do with Threema!
Proton stores Emails
Threema stores nothing !
"Big Money"
and
"Big Tech Money"
are 2 different things!
The traffic of Threema only visits one server - the Threema Server.
And this server does NOT store metadata nor IP-Adresses.
No backdoor!
Google knows the IP to nearly every User!
So: TOR, VPN, it all doesn´t matter!
SimpleX collects IP-Adresses and is connected to Big Data Companys - see Messenger list above!
85% of all Smartphone run on Google Android, which sends encrypted data to Google, everyday. So Google knows nearly every User PLUS its IP-Adress.
Always remember:
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebodyís life. If you have enough metadata, you donít really need content."
NSA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
Check:
"We kill people based on metadata"
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/
If the recipient is offline, the messages are sent to relay!
And as a rule, only the recipient knows whether they are currently online or offline.
TOR is infected by the US government
It´s all about Metadata!
There are no "free" messenger in this word. They all need money to run - websides, employees, Offices, ect.
If "Big"-Money is involved it won´t end good.
OpenSource doesn´t help because you can´t check if the server-code really runs on all relays.
A few relays with an Metadata-Collector and your privacy is gone!
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Always remember:
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebodyís life. If you have enough metadata, you donít really need content."
NSA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
Check:
"We kill people based on metadata"
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/
All these 4 leak your MetaData !!!
Check this:
SecureMessagingApps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
The header of XMPP-Messages are unencrpyted, A Spyserver in the net can easily collect all the data, that fly´s by!
SimpleX collects IP-Adresses and is connected to Big Data Companys - see Messenger list.
85% of all Smartphone run on Google Android, which sends encrypted data to Google, everyday. So Google knows nearly every User PLUS its IP-Adress.
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebodyís life. If you have enough metadata, you donít really need content."
NSA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
Check:
"We kill people based on metadata"
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/
All these 3 leak your MetaData !!!
Check this:
SecureMessagingApps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)
2. Signal (Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
I recommend everyone to switch to the messenger Threema.
They have their servers and headquarter in Switzerland and are therefore NOT subject to this EU law!
Threema will have nothing to do with that chat control!
If you want, you can buy Threema from me!
Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡
for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema only for Android Smartphones
Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.
Chat anonymously: No Phone number or Email required
No storage of #metadata or IP addresses
No collection of user cata at all & No ads
Guaranteed privacy & Strong encryption
Always End-to-End Encrypted: Text, Pictures, Files, Voice, Video and Group Calls
Open source with regular security Audits
Most selling secure Messenger App !
⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema
Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores
You can download the App on their Website and also use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones (iOS will come soon, but only in Europe)
Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke
For more Information, please visit their Website:
#NostrClassifieds #NostrMarket #Goodstr #DigiStore24 #Signal #Telegram #WhatsApp #SignalApp #Session #Wire #Facebook #Messenger #IMessage #Apple #Bitrefill #FDroid #FOSS #SimpleX #Privacy #Dataprotection #Chatkontrolle #Chatcontrol #ThreemaApp #ThreemaWork
If Signal leaves Europe, I recommend everyone to switch to the messenger Threema.
They have their servers and headquarter in Switzerland and are therefore NOT subject to this EU law!
Threema will have nothing to do with that chat control!
If you want, you can buy Threema from me!
Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡
for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema only for Android Smartphones
Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.
Chat anonymously: No Phone number or Email required
No storage of #metadata or IP addresses
No collection of user cata at all & No ads
Guaranteed privacy & Strong encryption
Always End-to-End Encrypted: Text, Pictures, Files, Voice, Video and Group Calls
Open source with regular security Audits
Most selling secure Messenger App !
⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema
Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores
You can download the App on their Website and also use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones (iOS will come soon, but only in Europe)
Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke
For more Information, please visit their Website:
#NostrClassifieds #NostrMarket #Goodstr #DigiStore24 #Signal #Telegram #WhatsApp #SignalApp #Session #Wire #Facebook #Messenger #IMessage #Apple #Bitrefill #FDroid #FOSS #SimpleX #Privacy #Dataprotection #Chatkontrolle #Chatcontrol #ThreemaApp #ThreemaWork