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What people regularly dismiss with intellectual property legislation is that it actually promotes innovation and the spreading of ideas.

Patent laws provide a strong incentive to publish ideas instead of hiding or obscuring them. This provides a wealth of information for everyone, boosts competition early on before market penetration is too big, and incentivises faster development.

I see this every day.

Hashers should not be rewarded only per share. Their reward should be connected to an actual block so that they have an incentive to check that the pool operator behaves well.

But yeah, the operator does not need to know their identity. Maybe submit a new npub with each share?

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Replying to Avatar Rune Østgård

A note on taxation.

Historically, how much were slaves allowed to keep of the fruits of their labour?

News came yesterday of an analysis of the average tax burden in Norway, including tax on income, wealth, VAT and more.

Excluding a few other taxes that we must pay, the answer was 67%.

I figure, if you include all of the special taxes and the 19 months of military conscription (which effectively is almost 100% tax), the result should be closer to 80%.

I'll link to it in a comment (it's in Norwegian).

To get a feeling of how that compares to traditional slavery I asked Grok a question and the answer was illuminating:

My question:

Approximately how big a share of the fruits of their labour have masters let slaves keep throughout history. Give 10 examples, beginning with ancient egypt and ending with something from the united states in the 19th century

Grok's answer

"Determining the exact share of the fruits of labor that slaves retained throughout history is challenging due to the variability in slave systems, the nature of records, and the differences in what was considered "fruits of labor" across different cultures and eras. However, based on historical practices and the information available up to 2024, here are approximate insights into how much slaves might have retained from their labor, focusing on examples from Ancient Egypt through to the 19th century United States:

Ancient Egypt: While slaves existed in Ancient Egypt, the concept of "wages" or retained labor fruits was not as straightforward as in later societies. Slaves could be given land, food, or other forms of compensation, but this was more about sustenance than profit-sharing. Some slaves, especially those with skills or in high demand, might have been allowed to keep a small portion of their earnings or goods, but this was likely minimal, perhaps around 5-10% in modern terms if we were to quantify it.

Classical Greece (Athens): Skilled slaves, like those in the Laurion silver mines or domestic slaves, could earn money through their skills. Some were allowed to keep a portion of their earnings, which might have been around 10-20% of their labor's value, especially if they were involved in commerce or skilled crafts.

Roman Empire: Roman slaves could buy their freedom or were sometimes granted freedom with a portion of their earnings retained. This might equate to around 15-25% of their labor's value, especially for those in urban settings or skilled trades.

Medieval Europe: Serfs, while not slaves in the classical sense, were bound to the land. They might retain around 30-40% of their produce or labor value, but this was more about survival than profit.

Islamic Golden Age (Abbasid Caliphate): Slaves, particularly those with skills or administrative roles, could sometimes retain a portion of their earnings, possibly around 20-30%, especially if they were involved in trade or crafts.

Medieval Islamic World (Mamluks in Egypt): Mamluk slaves, who were military slaves, were not typical in that they could rise to significant power. While not directly applicable to economic fruits, their eventual control over resources might be seen as retaining a significant share, though not in the initial stages of their service.

Renaissance Italy (Venice): Slaves in Venice, often domestic or involved in maritime activities, might retain very little, perhaps 5-10% of their labor's value, as their primary function was service rather than production for profit.

Colonial Latin America: In places like Brazil or the Caribbean, slaves might have been allowed to cultivate their plots or engage in petty trade. This could mean retaining around 10-20% of their labor's value, though this was often more about survival than wealth accumulation.

British Caribbean: Slaves in sugar plantations had harsh conditions with little to no share in the fruits of their labor. However, some could engage in small-scale farming or trade on Sundays, potentially retaining around 5-10% of their labor's value.

19th Century United States: In the U.S., slaves might have been allowed to keep small gardens or engage in minor trade, but their share of the actual labor fruits was minimal, often less than 5%. However, some slaves, especially in urban areas or those with skills like blacksmithing, could earn money on the side, which might be considered as retaining up to 10-15% of their labor's value if we include such earnings.

These percentages are highly speculative and based on general historical practices rather than precise data. The concept of "retaining fruits of labor" varies widely by the type of slavery, the economic system of the time, and the specific roles slaves performed. Moreover, these figures do not account for the inherent exploitation and the fact that slaves were not legally entitled to their labor's value in most systems."

End note from me:

It's not much that separates an average Norwegian tax payer and a slave in terms of how much we are allowed to keep.

Arguing about the difference is IMO largely arguing about semantics.

You may counter that it's more precise to call us serfs.

Whatever floats your boat, I say.

But it still begs the question?

When do the riots start?

When I was a kid I visited a museum in my home town and learned that the town ruler collected 10% of the earnings and produce of all the people living in the town. I was angry and asked why they could simply take away so much from other people.

Well, little did I know...

Well, I would agree. With the addition that Bitcoin isn't crypto.

Many problems are easy to solve, once articulated precisely.

Have multiple "expert" algorithms that curate feeds for specific topics and flavor.

Then let the user customize a scoring function that mixes the expert feeds based on user-defined weights. Maybe add some WoT spices on top.

Voila, the recipe for your favorite dish today. 😊

Isn't it a good thing to free up labor for more creative work? I remember times when kids had to work on the field and could not attend school. Still happens in many countries.

Communities can be formed or strengthened in other ways, without requiring people to work on a field.

I am curious where you see the productivity limit in terms of sunlight, considering that only a very small fraction of the light energy actually ends up in the product. Is that really the limiting factor? Afaik yields per hectare have been going up more or less constantly.

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What people don't seem to understand is how long inflation takes to ripple through the agricultural industry.

Conventional food production is energy intensive. Fuel prices contribute to fertilizer prices which contribute to grain prices which impact conventional meat prices. Add in the fact many producers try to secure input prices a year ahead of time, further kicking inflation down the road.

High quality grass fed producers have greater resilience to these pressures as the price of hay is likely the biggest impact, which is readily planned for during "good hay making years." (Another example of delaying inflation in agriculture.)

Inflation hits the lowest quality food production the hardest because they're already in competition to be the cheapest producer. As a result, fast food is a great gauge on real inflation rates.

I haven't even touched on the impacts that the drought can and is having on agricultural prices. Cattle markets are at all time highs. As parts of the country come out of drought demand is increasing for female livestock to start recovering from selling off during the drought years (national cattle numbers are fairly low). Coupled with stronger demand for beef the cattle market is expected to experience a super cycle.

It isn't unreasonable to be securing beef for your family now for the next 1-2 years from your LOCAL Bitcoin farmer/rancher. And if you don't have one, orange pill one. Regenerative ag and Bitcoin were made for each other.

Rehypothecation isn't just a gold and bank vault issue. It's happening in cattle markets too. Get eyes on your beef while it's on the hoof.

I agree that food prices are a good indicator. On the other hand, there have been tremendous technical advancements decreasing the food production costs during the past years and decades. Thus, looking only at food prices underestimates the real inflation, which is much higher.

Unfortunately, the contributors to these efficiency increases are often not really acknowledged because their contribution is eaten up by inflation. In the public perception the food prices just keep on increasing and the producers are being blamed.

One of the distortions from fiat money...

Biggest pump & dump of all times incoming?

Ghandi led a non-violent resistance that helped end the British rule in India.

Anyway, the idea of the state's monopoly on violence is that all others can settle their disputes without violence. That works pretty well in my experience.

Of course this monopoly has to be controlled and restricted, but there are better ways than arming up.

You seem to be pointing at the scenario that the monopoly goes completely rogue and it is used to violently suppress the population. Other than that I don't see why state actors use guns against innocent people. At least not more than a random person with a gun.

You are a bitcoiner if you have zero sats and still want #Bitcoin to succeed.