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todmann67
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This is fascinating to watch. I saw MSTR made a huge purchase so checked their SEC filings and sure enough, they were selling stock. Please write a book analyzing this strategy!

Been holding URA a few years now. I reduced my position to get some more cheap mortgage reits, but still holding a little bit long term.

I bet 20 sats he was abusing the for-profit status somehow.

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Have you ever wondered what the cost of rent would be under a Bitcoin standard? 👇 #BitcoinUrbanism #Housing

An important factor in determining the average cost of rent in a given geographic area would be the average disposable income of a household in that area. Over time, rental prices would emerge naturally from the market. This is a very complex subject.

According to the Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises, rent is not the specific revenue from land, it is a market phenomenon, where entrepreneurs are willing to take risk by investing funds in the production of a house to earn a return (rent).

Mises called this “originary interest,” which refers to the markup between factor prices and the expected revenues from the sale of the finished product. The implied rate of return on a production project.

When renting, the surplus money from not purchasing a house can be used for something else that is considered more important. For example, to finance a business or to save (for comparison: Under fiat, excess cash can be used to buy bitcoin).

We can expect the #rent to be close to the risk-free interest rate under sound money, plus an adjustment for risk, because after all, the rental is not risk-free. The property could be damaged and rent not paid. Yes, insurance could be purchased, but it would be costly and time-consuming.

The market interest rate would reflect the overall time preference of people in the economy. A risk-free interest rate would naturally emerge from the market, as will for example the average rents.

Full article: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/bitcoin-will-completely-change-real-estate-markets-and-interest-rates

I would modify this by saying that the entrepreneur who buys the land and builds a house is not producing a house (though this is the orthodox view), he’s buys the land, building a capital asset, and “producing” dwelling space. The market is ultimately for space, the physical structure is PP&E.

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Have you ever wondered what the price #housing under a Bitcoin standard would be ? 🏛️

#RealEstate prices will ultimately depend on supply and demand. If people are willing to pay a premium for location, etc., they will. Deviation from the average will be the natural result of market forces.

Overall, price movements of housing will become more closely tracked to population changes and scarcity of land. Right now land scarcity is artificial due to government regulations (zoning laws).

It is likely that regulations will continue to exist as municipalities and similar entities are interested in creating a particular building appearance, but they are unlikely to be as restrictive as they are today.

In general, housing would be cheaper because the level of financialisation would be much lower, as people can save in bitcoin (by default) and not have to invest to compensate for inflation. Plus, deflation would make it cheaper over time. 💫

Demand for real estate investment loans would also decrease as people can save in bitcoin.

By functioning as an actual store of value, bitcoin will most likely absorb the monetary premium that real estate has accumulated over decades of monetary inflation and housing will collapse to its utility value. This would change the home buying experience. 🏠

Much of the current financial infrastructure surrounding real estate, including brokers, will become less important and partially disappear.

When buying a house, rent should be considered as an opportunity cost, because the opportunity cost of owning a house to live in is that it can’t be rented out to generate additional income. 🧡⚡

Regarding zoning laws (they are awful), have you heard of Christopher Alexander and his Pattern Language? I think it would be an obvious alternative to top down zoning laws under a bitcoin regime.

What if there is a dispute over control of the keys (possession)? That entitlement would need to be enforced, which could only be accomplished with a property rule (see Morris, Structure of Entitlements, 78 Cornell L. Review 822 (1993)). Moreover, the issue of multiple ownership can be analogized to a tenancy in common, which allows parties to own and interest in the undivided whole, thus enjoying the same property entitlement protections.

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I had the honour of being guest on the 100th episode of nostr:npub1st4elxz4dphx2qxpuaklvs855zetnkglu8dvszdxamgqn5q3pk5svflv5p's German Bitcoin podcast "Was Bitcoin bringt.". He is a tremendous asset to this space. We talked about how Bitcoin will replace the broken monetary system - and with it, #realestate investments as we know them today. The first part of our conversation is online. 💫

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkH2-THLBQI&t=839s

Unfortunately I don’t speak German. Can you relay your thoughts on how real estate investing will change? Thank you.