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Niel Liesmons
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Designer that codes. Also #WordStudy #Dadstr #Farmstr

You're probably right on the comments and zaps looking the same in the OP. Still trying to find something better/consistent for that.

All the other stuff I've been testing for weeks. Next.nostrudel is batshit crazy complicated relative to this and even that took my eyes just one day to learn how to filter for signal.

What makes it interesting?

To me, it seems unnecessary, confusing and bloats the UI (with zaps in three lines!).

A zap-comment only adds signal if it can be responded to (like in zap.stream or nostrnests chat).

I don't think displaying them like this would incentivize people to make display-worthy comments.

If they have something interesting to say, it will be in the comment section.

Even with WoT magic, this is more likely a tool for post hijacking with spam than one for adding signal.

Damn yes, that's true 🤔.

But even then showing the zappers is already a step up from showing a zap total. Higher chance of scammers being called out on their autozaps. And since reputation is kind if a big deal on here...

Replying to Avatar hzrd149

Haha yes! #funstr

When you're competing for top zapper on Nostrudel :noStrudel: #V4V

That's why you show the zappers and not the zap total. (love that Snort also does that in a way now 👍 )

Replying to Avatar Niel Liesmons

nostr:npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr already implemented it in next.nostrudel :noStrudel: and I use it all the time with reposts for two way discovery.

Big Tech would never allow that stuff.

nostr:npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr already implemented it in next.nostrudel :noStrudel: and I use it all the time with reposts for two way discovery.

Big Tech would never allow that stuff.

Haha, yeah sorry 😹 I liked your pfp, so I used for this Highlighter mockup. Hope you don't mind, you're in the my mockup database now.

Ooooooh, of course! Awesome 🔥

Aha moment n°2 of the day, thanks sir, keep it up 💪

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So far we’ve copied most of Twitter. They have decades of learning what’s best for a microblogging product.

We’d be fools to ignore it.

But zaps are a new concept.

Presenting them as highlighted zaps like this, as envisioned by nostr:npub149p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklq9g722q , makes them stand out massively.

The UI follows what a new-comer would expect. Except zaps.

One of the distinct features of nostr stands out immediately igniting curiosity.

There will be many more opportunities like this, to represent a unique feature of nostr, not as a weird obscure thing to hide, but as something to be put front and center, to lean-in into what makes nostr special.

Why keep this bar though?

There is zero signal in there. These numbers don't mean anything. They can all be faked, except for zaps (and the zappers are already displayed). And they are especially invaluable if you can't even access the reposts, bookmarks etc from others.

Chat UI's are far superior to Twitter in information density and in how they stimulate actual conversation. They do not show the same redundant icon bar on every post. They just focus on signal.

For Nostr microblogging that signal would be:

1. Did people value this post? 👉 Show zappers from high to low

2. Did this post spark conversation (within my network) 👉 Show Pfp's of who commented, ordered by WoT

3. Is this a Thread? 👉 Show Pfp of author as first commentor

That's it. No need to show the buttons for all actions. Chats also solved that part with right click, gestures and long press.

What Twitter did right is threads, character limit, reposting, tagging, hashtags, bookmarking, ... NOT the display of their engagement farming numbers.