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ornedii
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dryland permaculture, tinyhouse, music, software engineer full stack

you are gold sir!! truly appreciate it.

thanks for your help. hm... maybe i did something wrong.

connected alby to this account. if you feel willijg to help please zap me so i can verify all works. thanks! #grownostr

Replying to Avatar nami

one of my favorites!!

beautiful picture and big trees! Very nice to see growth on terraces 👍

i noticed a hughe difference in tree/plant strength/health deoending on nursery. some really sell sad plants. We only plant a couple of nursery bought trees which will be used to take grafts from, and these are being spoiled or they die.

From seed is key is our experience.

So the other trees and perennials are all planted from seed, and after 2 summers we see what survived and keep planting.

depending on your region carrasca may be quercus ilex, which is one of my favorite oaks, they are incredibly strong. But here an animal is specialized at finding the acorns and stealing them. Kermes oak quercus coccifera is also a nice oak, similar to ilex but stays mostly bushy, have seen some trees of 10m/32ft. Heavy fruiters sometimes 2/year

Am trying to establish some pinus piñonero, the one with the big pine nuts. The regional pine tree is pinus halapensis which is one of the more flammable species so of course the gov planted then out... go figure. I want them all gone as they are sort of a non-agricultural mono-crop. Also heavily infested with mistletoe and many dying or dead adding to the fuel. Just as their needles do.

Almond and apricot are incredibly good at surviving as seedling. An almond will be makijg a tap root of around 30cm/11" deep for a month before showing its first leaf, incredible!

Pommegranate (had no luck yet), quince, some date palms, pear, carob, nettle tree, mulberry, are all on the list and do work once they sprout from seed.

again, nursery trees are our "houseplants" planted in zone1 and get taken care of. Though had some luck with our own nursery seedlings but the time and effort and water is just too much.

Also there is a permies.com thread about reforestation on large scale. I have seen this work in abandoned almond fields and gives hope. Thats why I seed many almonds. They all help breaking through the heavy concreted dirt and add biomass. https://permies.com/t/14353/Reforestation-Growing-trees-arid-barren

Besides this: broadbean survives, alfalfa survives and is a perennial.

#permaculture #forest #reforestation #farming #regeneration

reforestation mostly: almond, oak and anything else i can find.

but first observing to prepare the design for earthworks.

have some chickens and had pigeons (taken by predators).

farmOS is fun too. taking images for observation logs helps me remember how things went. and where i planted seeds which may sprout 2years later.

Have you heard of https://farmos.org/ ? It is a website which helps you document and manage your farm. Been using it a couole of years and have been super happy with it! #farm #open-source

Replying to Avatar Olive Grove Eggs

The rain is absolutely torrential. Thunder cracking directly overhead, hold on to your hats. It is most welcome.

Most of the picture-perfect olive groves that Spain is known for, receive EU grants (€350/ hectare to plough) After this storm passes, they will be inaccessible, flooded, and the top soil a bit more eroded.

Man, not the sun, is the principal driver of localised changes to ecosystems. When the rain hits my land it is stored. When thevsun hits my land, the ground cover absorbs and slowly releases heat. The bare soil next door hits 60c in summer. The hydrological cycle is disrupted.

It is very difficult to do the maths to prove to the genersl population what that means for the climate. But it is easy to see what it means for our ecosystems.

Millions of bad decisions since we discovered agriculture, accelerating over the last hundred years, exponential the last 40-50 years, result in the current big ag complex. Join up the millions of plots of land being farmed in an unnaturall way, multiply out the local broken hydrological cycles, you dont need a person on social media to join the dots for you.

And you really should question why there are still significant voices playing down our direct role in ecosystem collapse. You just don't hear the naked truth that we have been shitting on our own doorstep for too long and the consequences are playing out before our eyes.

"They" can't tell you what to think, but they sure can tell you what to think about.

They talk about climate change, global warming and similar terms - such a trigger, and such a vast concept to get our head round. We either get super freaked out/ depressed, or mostly switch off, overwhelmed. That strategy is playing right into our chimp brain. It's clever.

The day a govt and corp talk and act in terms of dealing with global ecosystem collapse, global because they join the dots of local ecosystem collapse, then they have my vote, but it won't happen because they work on an exploitationall economic model. Is there any other sort? No, but there are ways that's more sustainable than others. (The only thing Man literally creates is art. Every other moment, we just exploit what we inherited from creation )

Anyway, until society wakes up and runs itself along eco-friendly lines, and refuses to support big ag production as is, I'm afraid we are on a one way track to famine at one end, and slow degeneration through malnutrition ( obesity being that signal,) at the other.

Why? Because I am not the only one who can no longer rely on the seasons. I might be able to adapt, to "control" my veg garden, snd I can have groundcover and shade trees and chickens to mitigste agsinst weird rain, wind and sun, but I sure have no way to controlv the vast majority of the land around me.

Consumers could force hands quicker than me ranting or govt policy. Like @bitcoin bull said about changing the financial system peacefully, bankrupt the fuckers. Equally speedy change could be off the back of the masses refusing to buy shit food.

They say you cannot afford good food

I say, if it's nutrient rich, you don't need a lot of food. Really, its a lie that big ag and huge scale farming is the only way to secure a huge food supply for better fed, healthier populations. Production from small market gardens is insane. And now I am rambling. Cheers

#km0 #growstr #local #ecological #Spain #olives #circular-economy

this part about rain and ground cover! If you look at satellite imagery of spain, most patches resembling desert are those used by convential agriculture. And still they plow. There is no top soil loss, it's been washed away many years ago. This is plain erosion, the land is "melting" with each rain event.

Doing what little we can on our own plot or neighborhood has a big impact. So much life returns so quickly after adding some mulch and stopping to plow.

It's beautiful, makes sense and gives back so much.

where you at in spain if i may ask? hows the progress w the mobile chickens? sounds like an interesting project!! keep it up!

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4 years ago I decided to raise pigeons for meat and I was all in. It seemed it was perfect for me since I couldn’t have any other animals due to government restrictions. I had my plan of action, I figured how to expand my growth and educated my self with plenty of outdated books that proved to be a great resource once in history. Set up housing, got my pigeons and I was ready. Yes, I thought I was ready.

I didn’t account for one of my neighbors gifting me 20 laying hens and a free coop big enough to house all of them. Quickly the pigeons faded away. All my attention was taken away by the chickens, heck even the kids where exited about these little dinosaurs that brought them joy while chasing and fighting over a roach that just happened to cross their path. The kids where all in.

It’s amazing how times flies by, I spend the last 4 years raising, incubating, processing chickens. All of this in a plot of land that it’s not zoned for animals. But what I learned is that if you get free chickens, you take them no matter the circumstance and make it work and boy did I make them work.

What I didn’t count on was that at the same times my pigeon flock was thriving just as well. With minimal input is was growing. It is still growing and what I mostly enjoy that they raise their own babies with out any input from me. All I had to do was feed them and provide them clean water.

Sadly I didn’t manage them correctly, and I still have not processed any of the pigeons for meat. I have plenty of free loaders and a line that just does not work.

This year I will make my pigeons a priority and make them a part of my meat productions. I will have to remove about half or more of my birds and start fresh but hey you live and learn.

#growfood #grownostr #homesteading #squabs #pigeons

thanks for sharing. Pigeons need so little atention and are good foragers. Im learning what they like to eat that grows here and once they find a river and waterholes they are almost sustaining themselves.

ah maybe i am confusing things. I saw a lightning channel id in yhe profile settings. thought i'd connect the two.