I'm just thinking in terms of network theory. It seems likely to me, that graph connectivity will be tend to have a lot of concentrated areas, particularly around high profile individuals who may attract very high follower counts. I can imagine this creating serious usability problems. These are solvable problems. Just thinking ahead.

Without something like bloom filters, the bandwidth demands to mobile devices will also balloon, with the vast majority of data they're receiving from the relay, irrelevant to the client and just getting dropped. But once again, maybe I'm missing something.

As others have suggested, I share the instinct that relays are going to struggle to scale if Nostr really takes off and there is no filtering added to the protocol. But maybe I'm dumb and I'm missing something. I'm very open to the idea that I'm missing something.

Disagree. Just make the transport layer support gzip like HTTP (maybe it already does?) and you get 80% of the benefit of binary serialization bandwidth optimization for basically no extra implementation complexity.

It seems that relays could implement bloom filtering, with clients advertising their bloom filters to the relay based on who they're following. Obviously would need a NIP for that.

Been reading a lot of the stuff out of the Santa Fe Institute, which is sort of ground zero for complexity studies. They have a lot of online resources: https://www.santafe.edu/engage/learn/complexity-explorer

I have already heard this omen

Who is the most prominent nocoiner on Nostr right now?

We've been redefining those concepts for a long time.

Not sure about that. I think we are closer to cracking the code of aging than anybody knows.

You can safely tell him that we are likely not living in a simulation.

One of my obsessions has been learning about Complex Systems Theory and Emergence. It's a rabbit hole that's probably done more to change how I think about the world. The past. The present. The future. It's been humbling intellectual journey, because of how much it reveals about what we don't know.

Understanding path dependence is another important concept. Looking at the way systems of culture, politics and economics are *path* *dependent* can help focus you better on how to bend the curve of history, rather than getting stuck in a spiral of moral outrage about injustice in our society.

Moral outrage about "the system" is probably just about the least productive way to reason about the world and make it a better place. If anything, it can be counterproductive, and cause you to justify bad things, in the name of revenge or because you've managed to convince yourself that your perceived enemies are so bad, that hurting them is morally justified.

The world is the way the world is right now. There's nothing that's going to change the present. All you can do is bend incentives towards the future.

You didn't. I'm aware of the swirl. I'm just objecting to the notion that there's a there there. Jack hasn't had to practice restraint by staying neutral, because there's never been a conflict-of-interest. Neither Jack or I consider Nostr competitive with our Web5 strategy. We both see the opportunity for connection and for both technologies to reinforce and improve each other by creating a wide-ranging set of decentralization technologies that are fit to purpose with different use cases. Web5 is incredibly focused on decentralized identity, verifiable credentials, and data ownership. I kind of look at Nostr and Web5 and think to myself "hey, Web5 could provide a better solution to NIP5, so you don't even need to rely on centralized servers for identity verification!" -- or "Web5's decentralized data storage schemes could significantly improve the experience of a Nostr client by being able to self-host metadata, message history, or other assets, in the future."

I see this all as part of a revolution of decentralization of services, on top of open protocols on the internet.

That is my official position on all this and everyone can take it to the bank.

Block has a very liberal policy around our employees being able to freely express their personal views on Twitter. At no point, did I, as the responsible individual for TBD's strategy and mission, consider Nostr a threat to that mission, competitive with that mission, or anything other than complementary to that mission.

The drama, such as it is, does not represent anything real in terms of our company's disposition.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

There is no Block/TBD vs Nostr battle. As the founder and leader of TBD within Block, I say this with some authority.

Yes

Guys, I watched cable news tonight for 15 minutes and I now feel ten times worse about humanity. I know, I know ...

Tasty feet!

Talk more about ideas. Talk less about "news".

Sorry! Welcome to the Nostr jungle!