I asked AI Agent to explain the op_return debate. I understand the Knots side but was having trouble with the Core side.
It’s about a free market side….Martin Luther or an Orthodox side …. fish on Fridays.
⚔️ Bitcoin Core vs. Bitcoin Knots: The OP_RETURN Debate
🔹 What is OP_RETURN?
OP_RETURN is a Bitcoin script opcode that allows embedding small amounts of arbitrary data in transactions. It’s prunable (not stored in the UTXO set) and used for things like digital certificates, time-stamping, Layer 2 protocols, NFTs, and more.
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🟧 Bitcoin Core’s Position
• Increasing the OP_RETURN limit: Developers like Peter Todd have proposed removing or significantly raising the 80-byte data limit.
• Why?
• OP_RETURN is non-spendable and prunable, so it doesn’t increase the size of the UTXO set (unlike hacks using fake addresses).
• Allowing more data via OP_RETURN encourages cleaner, safer use of the blockchain rather than misusing payment outputs for data.
• Fee markets, not arbitrary limits, should discourage spam. If someone is willing to pay high fees for data, the network should allow it.
• Encourages innovation in decentralized applications and protocols that rely on blockchain data.
⚖️ Ethos: Let the market decide, reduce incentives for dirty hacks, don’t artificially restrict use cases.
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🟩 Bitcoin Knots’ Position
• Maintains stricter limits on OP_RETURN than Bitcoin Core.
• Associated with developers like Luke Dashjr, who strongly oppose using the Bitcoin blockchain for non-financial data.
• Why?
• Even prunable data increases bandwidth and validation load, which can hurt decentralization.
• Permissive data embedding can lead to abuse, like Ordinals, NFTs, or arbitrary content (e.g., memes or files).
• Limits preserve Bitcoin’s role as a monetary protocol and protect its long-term scalability.
• Believes in protocol-level filtering of misuse rather than relying only on economic incentives.
⚖️ Ethos: Bitcoin should be a secure, minimal, financial-only ledger — not a general-purpose data layer.
“Sats are the standard”.
Yes you might be correct titles don’t matter.
I must not be all that informed.
I did not know this movie existed.
Just say this for the first time.
I think I just jumped the shark.
Exactly. So where is the entry point for new Bitcoiners? Who is the target and with what is the simplest learning curve possible?
Yes. I get a card in the mail that works better. I don’t even have that money in the bank yet, but. Can get that stuff now. And if you are talking about “digital gold” I can’t afford new shoes.
That the target. Not theory. But giving hope by the easy means possible.
Ok. But what if we have onboarded most of the people that can understand cryptography security? And all that’s left are Homers? The banking credit system is designed for them. Automatic banking
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So before BIP39 holders were self-sovereign?
This was a very test. Very cool.
Here is a game/contest.
Find the passpharse
The answer is on Nostr. It’s not that hard.
A wee bit of 3D print news.
https://techxplore.com/news/2025-05-soft-robots-3d-printer.html
This might be a good reason to not use legacy BIP 38.
https://protos.com/bip-proposes-destroying-bitcoins-to-save-the-ecosystem-from-quantum-attack/
Why is old school bad?
