I think you make some good points. I have a few comments:

-Bitcoiners are kind of a seed for content here, but I agree with you that it's a lot. That's part of the reason I post random shit about Egypt and other random stuff over the past year and a half. A new social ecosystem requires some diehard people, but also needs certain roots for broader involvement.

-The inability to delete is a feature, not a bug. Once you sign a note, it's out in distributed relays. However, incentive-wise, I think high-accessible perpetual notes will rely on some form of economics or payment. Over the long term of time it will likely be unseen or outright deleted if a small account posts something they don't particularly endorse anymore.

-I think zaps will be an onboarding tool for bitcoin. Existing bitcoiners will be like "yeah I know what those are" but new coiners will be like, "wait what are these?" and it'll be a learning experience. It's a friction point, but potentially a good one. Also, some Lightning/Ecash wallets can be dollar-denominated.

-I think key management is probably the hardest long-term part. Even for power-users let alone newbies. Because with power-users we might understand it better, but also our stakes for fucking it up are higher.

If you use some clients (i.e. Amethyst for android) you cand send a deletion request to your relays

I recently joined just the other day and I think you make good points, except for the deletion part. I think the reason why people feel like deletion is necessary is from decades of using the other social media. Deletion on social media is almost like an indirect form of censorship.

Nostr right now is a verifiable public record. Being able to delete something from a public record alters that history and can remove accountability for what was written. It also allows people to selectively curate their online presence, which is a huge and super fucking annoying issue with every other platform. Doing that can be something that contributes to controlling a specific narrative.

By sticking with this system where if you posted it, it can be attributed to you via your key pair, then we maintain full accountability for all things written at all times and nobody can escape it, no matter how uncomfortable it might make them.

A better solution could possibly be allowing edits, and then the edits are chained together to where the edit history is fully maintained and viewable at all times. This is something I kinda want just because I hate making dumb typos 😄

ok weird my posts go to mastodon & Bluesky

lollll you need to watch out what you say 💀🔥

true deletes will never be possible because the concept doesn't really make sense here

lightning fast if you know what i mean eyyy

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In bitcoin’s early years, a lot of people debated the theoretical functioning of it with a critical lens, but then in practice it just worked and bootstrapped for the next 15 years and counting. It was simple and elegant enough to work despite being rough around the edges, caught all the right types of mindshare, and grew.

Nostr has a similar pattern so far. Lots of people critique it. And galaxy brains are trying to build more complex alternative digital identity schemes without much shipping. Meanwhile Nostr is out in the field bootstrapping with users and developers and companies.

Oop got home early today but I forgot my key so I’ve now climbed onto my back balcony since I have now where else to go… have to wait like 1.5hrs 😭

You can.