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Really depends on the tattoo doesn’t it? Regardless of gender. I seen some fugly work done my guy 👀

And I’m just being a pos troll who doesn’t contribute anything to the convo 🙃 Never mind me. I did read your post tho and found it enlightening

I'm not sure I should write down these thoughts right now while I'm not sure about them, but if you are reading this apparently I did.

I think nostr may already be doomed for two reasons. And as a result of that, if I conclude as such, it would make sense to start working on a successor protocol. I've been taking some notes about what we should change if we started over, but that's the extent of it, I'm not working on a successor protocol. I'm only working on nostr. So don't misinterpret this note, which just represents some thoughts I've been having.

Reason one is the misaligned incentives of note copying. The incentives are to copy your notes to every relay you can, blast them out everywhere, to get more reach. That incentive doesn't go away until and unless all the clients do the outbox model. But they don't have an incentive to change, and there are people who don't give a fuck about fixing this and argue against fixing it and argue for note copying, and there is no way in a free society to make them care. So we can never fix this, and nostr will always be centralized in practice and never what it could have been. That means nostr is doomed and unfixable and we should make sure to start differently next time so this doesn't happen again.

Reason two is that the seed culture of nostr was far too monolithic: bitcoiners. What a culture develops into probably depends on how diverse its seed was. It's quite hard to get people onto nostr unless they are at least very bitcoin tolerant. Most people (yes, I think most) are put off by so much bitcoin promotion and related posts. Certainly people can follow anybody they want, and make their own independent cultures, perhaps even on a disjoint set of relays. But this isn't likely to happen due to the law of large numbers - there are far more ways for them to encounter and interact with the nest of bitcoiners then to not encounter and interact with them.

These are thoughts I'm entirely unsure about. Maybe I'm wrong in both cases. These are my worries.

Nostr is dead! Long live Nostr

I’d consider myself a toxic Bitcoin maxi honestly. But in the context of Bitcoin as money only. There are a lot of things in life that I value and see as a worthy investment of my personal time, energy and proof of work

Will I not invest in rock climbing equipment because it will depreciate against my bitcoin? Of course not.

I’d love to have the option to invest sats instead of fiat though. That’s an idea

I think we share the same views on practically everything stated here. But the core difference is you are looking at bitcoin & all investments purely through the lens of growth & capital appreciation.

The core idea I was trying to address with my question - is essentially whether or not there is ANY circumstance where Bitcoiners would rather invest their energy/money/time into something rather than Bitcoin itself.

Would you give your son an interest free loan to help start a business? Or say nah, I’ll make a better return in Bitcoin and leave him hanging? With this example, you might see that your “investment” isn’t about making a return, so much as it is about providing the capital to something or someone who is trying to build something.

Assuming the world reached a state of total bitcoin adoption, would you be willing to part with Sats as an investment in a company, project or enterprise that you felt was creating value?

I think a lot of people would. I mean… we #zap one another like crazy all day. Literally providing a couple sats for a cheap laugh or interesting perspective. What if you could zap a company that is working on advanced prosthetics or regenerative farming?

Just curious what people here genuinely think.

So again I pose the question - why does “#Bitcoin Only” mean to you?

#asknostr

Missing the point. That’s like saying why eat bread when you can save in Bitcoin. Money is meant to be used. Would you invest your sats to support something you think would improve your quality of life?

Box of tissues? Is that an investment recommendation for Kleenex? I appreciate your concern, but I’m genuinely in a blessed financial spot. No tears here 😉

Let me give you a better example of what I mean. I own Block stock. I like what block provides for businesses AND they are Bitcoin friendly. Public investment in companies drives growth. Block growing means more on ramps for Bitcoiners potentially. I FULLY EXPECT block stock to underperform bitcoin… but does that mean it’s not worth owning? Is it not worth the support?

That’s the question I pose.

Maybe think of it in Bitcoin terms. Would you invest sats in a company that provides value to you?

Buying #Bitcoin goes without saying.

But where does everyone stand on owning equity in publicly traded companies? I got interested in investing at a young age because I thought it was awesome that I could dedicate my money towards people, projects and businesses building cool shit that I enjoy. The capital gain was also nice too should the investment work out.

While I think #Bitcoin is unmatched as money due to its monetary policy & properties - the concept of investing in real companies beyond the aspect of speculation is still important.

What do you think? What does “#Bitcoin only” mean to you?

#asknostr

I’m just here for the frog dick pics if I’m being honest

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