It’s hard to describe the deficiency of connection you experience when talking to someone who stops looking at you to check their phone when it’s your turn to talk.

I just listened to this today, the way you handled yourself in the conversation providing compelling arguments and keeping your cool in the face of… paper thin criticisms??? was admirable. It felt like you won the argument AND the person (he really seemed to change his tone by the end of the conversation) which is super hard to do.