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Philosophy and psychology

终于意识到我思维一个很大的问题了

我为了实现精确而不断为事情的背后寻找原因,来调节自己的行为

在社交的时候也过于为别人的行为合理化,也就是寻找原因,而忽略了社交是情绪交换

并且不确定性始终是存在的,如果一直考虑消除不确定性,那么就会变的很焦虑和疲惫

之前和一个心理治疗师住在一起,她说: 也许你不能接受她(他)做的某些事情,但是你可以接受其作为一个独立的人

如果事情在发生之前就都确定下来了,那么世界的意义和趣味便会少了很多

一个新的感悟:如果一直在思考会与不会,那么就会很焦虑

重要的是要接受不确定性,发生与不发生都是可以接受的

快乐,感觉是一件蛮困难的事

很久之前便想写一些哲学和其他方面相关的一些东西,也许在这个机会下,每次写一点,能够尽量完整地地写出来

前期和一个npd 住在一起,结果又发现了一些其他和npd相关的事情, 感觉还是蛮奇特的

这是一个匿名化的平台(或许不是百分之百匿名化),我打算把它用作一个树洞,分享一下最近的一些想法和有意思的事。

Replying to Avatar 爱花

#AihuaThink

机械唯物主义千百年来一直困扰我们的一个问题就是:如果一切都是被决定了的,那我为什么还要努力?

一切都被决定的意思就是说,我并不能真正做出选择,比如摆在面前的有苹果和香蕉,我纠结了一会最终选择了吃苹果,并不是因为我是自由的,可能仅仅是因为我昨天看到有人吃苹果了,在那一刻就被决定了的。

所谓自由意志、所谓我个人做出的决定,只是假象,这是一个让人很难接受的事实。然而随着脑科学的发展,众多实验事实(我们的各种精神活动会伴随脑部的各种化学反应)越来越暗示可能机械唯物是正确的。

回到最初的问题:那我为什么还要努力?这个问题有意思在于,问题本身就是个悖论。前提是我什么都选择不了,结论是我应该选择躺平。这太令人费解了。

我能给出的解释就是,因为这个问题没有意义,思考这个问题本身就是浪费时间,就像在思考“1既然等于1,那1为什么不等于2”一样。

但需要注意的是,确实会有人因为得知了机械唯物是真的然后完全彻底躺平,但这也是被决定了的。我们无须探讨他们为什么选择如此,只需要把这当成一种思想上的病毒即可,有人感染了,有人免疫了。

如果机械唯物是真的,那么我们只需要静静地做好一个观众,欣赏这个是你又非你的人类的人生即可。那“我们”又是谁?是幻觉和假象。

我还是希望它是假的… 康德说我们永远不可能知道这件事的真相,但是如果真的通过计算机完全成功预测了一个人的所有行为和想法,我们真的还能装作不相信吗?

Here are some ideas about it

1. The definition of free will, frankly speaking this is a highly empirical term as well, people are required to assess the factors that influence people’s judges, the main idea is how individually people could make decisions out of the environment (obviously the environment did have a impact on people’s decisions, a simple case, the temperature rises and people feel hot and maybe come up with an idea of taking off the clothes.)

2. the demonstration of the determinism, sadly, the determinism itself could not be proved in any rigorous way, the support of it is highly empirical, comes with science history. If u look into the history of physics, it is built on empiricism, and be included into laws, and apply them under certain uncertainty, the necessary of uncertainty is related to the way we acknowledge the world, it could be better understood with the help of materialism, as the so called objective truth and absolute truth. And we might come up with the quantum mechanics which seems to lose th characteristic of determinism, but we need to remember the world before newton’s three laws, the movement of rather big subjects still show a great uncertainty. The tricky point is we can’t deny the existence of determinism simply because of quantum mechanics, it could be a intermediate process as well. But according the logic relationship of past science history, it works. In short, experience, laws(approximate), and predictions(approximate), obviously, so far it’s impossible to say whether it’s right or wrong, but the main idea behind it, seems indicate the determinism works.

3. the problems we might encounter if free will doesn’t exist.

Of course, the first comes with the idea, if my behaviors are decided upon the environment, why I should hold responsibility for it.

This question could be sovleld by mutual benefit theory, the so called laws and rules are the tools we used to coordinate the beneficial relationship between individuals. And the main idea shows that even if free will doesn’t exist, people still need to hold responsibility. It is quite similar to the idea of Darwin: the nature selection.

4. If free will doesn’t exist. Does it mean u could have more freedom or less?

Well, the tricky point about this is though logically speaking, if determinism works, then everything is determined already, but the reality is we still couldn’t tell what would happen for sure, the reason is obvious: there are too many arguments. But If we have already know some empirical laws, especially psychological ones, then we could apply it to the environment to make the the following stuff become easier, the case is just like the relationship of temperature and feeling, but if it is applied in a more complex situation, we could make things easier by change some environmental factors around individuals. In this way, u actually have more freedom.

Replying to Avatar 爱花

#AihuaThink

机械唯物主义千百年来一直困扰我们的一个问题就是:如果一切都是被决定了的,那我为什么还要努力?

一切都被决定的意思就是说,我并不能真正做出选择,比如摆在面前的有苹果和香蕉,我纠结了一会最终选择了吃苹果,并不是因为我是自由的,可能仅仅是因为我昨天看到有人吃苹果了,在那一刻就被决定了的。

所谓自由意志、所谓我个人做出的决定,只是假象,这是一个让人很难接受的事实。然而随着脑科学的发展,众多实验事实(我们的各种精神活动会伴随脑部的各种化学反应)越来越暗示可能机械唯物是正确的。

回到最初的问题:那我为什么还要努力?这个问题有意思在于,问题本身就是个悖论。前提是我什么都选择不了,结论是我应该选择躺平。这太令人费解了。

我能给出的解释就是,因为这个问题没有意义,思考这个问题本身就是浪费时间,就像在思考“1既然等于1,那1为什么不等于2”一样。

但需要注意的是,确实会有人因为得知了机械唯物是真的然后完全彻底躺平,但这也是被决定了的。我们无须探讨他们为什么选择如此,只需要把这当成一种思想上的病毒即可,有人感染了,有人免疫了。

如果机械唯物是真的,那么我们只需要静静地做好一个观众,欣赏这个是你又非你的人类的人生即可。那“我们”又是谁?是幻觉和假象。

我还是希望它是假的… 康德说我们永远不可能知道这件事的真相,但是如果真的通过计算机完全成功预测了一个人的所有行为和想法,我们真的还能装作不相信吗?

Here are some ideas about it

1. The definition of free will, frankly speaking this is a highly empirical term as well, people are required to assess the factors that influence people’s judges, the main idea is how individually people could make decisions out of the environment (obviously the environment did have a impact on people’s decisions, a simple case, the temperature rises and people feel hot and maybe come up with an idea of taking off the clothes.)

2. the demonstration of the determinism, sadly, the determinism itself could not be proved in any rigorous way, the support of it is highly empirical, comes with science history. If u look into the history of physics, it is built on empiricism, and be included into laws, and apply them under certain uncertainty, the necessary of uncertainty is related to the way we acknowledge the world, it could be better understood with the help of materialism, as the so called objective truth and absolute truth. And we might come up with the quantum mechanics which seems to lose th characteristic of determinism, but we need to remember the world before newton’s three laws, the movement of rather big subjects still show a great uncertainty. The tricky point is we can’t deny the existence of determinism simply because of quantum mechanics, it could be a intermediate process as well. But according the logic relationship of past science history, it works. In short, experience, laws(approximate), and predictions(approximate), obviously, so far it’s impossible to say whether it’s right or wrong, but the main idea behind it, seems indicate the determinism works.

3. the problems we might encounter if free will doesn’t exist.

Of course, the first comes with the idea, if my behaviors are decided upon the environment, why I should hold responsibility for it.

This question could be sovleld by mutual benefit theory, the so called laws and rules are the tools we used to coordinate the beneficial relationship between individuals. And the main idea shows that even if free will doesn’t exist, people still need to hold responsibility. It is quite similar to the idea of Darwin: the nature selection.

4. If free will doesn’t exist. Does it mean u could have more freedom or less?

Well, the tricky point about this is though logically speaking, if determinism works, then everything is determined already, but the reality is we still couldn’t tell what would happen for sure, the reason is obvious: there are too many arguments. But If we have already know some empirical laws, especially psychological ones, then we could apply it to the environment to make the the following stuff become easier, the case is just like the relationship of temperature and feeling, but if it is applied in a more complex situation, we could make things easier by change some environmental factors around individuals. In this way, u actually have more freedom.