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I have 11 relays in primal when i click on relays. all green.

I click in my damus...and i have 4. wtf is goin on

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Hey nostr:npub16tnq9ruem6evwmywhu69xxl0qk802f03vf8hftvkuvw0n7mmz83stxcvw5, let’s see if we can get to the bottom of this.

If you are *only* using Damus and the Primal web app with your nsec, and your relay list is getting deleted, then one of these apps is deleting it. Note that if you access any other Nostr web app via your browser extension, that app is also theoretically able to make changes on your behalf. Please confirm.

If you are able to reproduce relay deletion via the Primal web app, please let us know which exact action you performed, and we will try to reproduce this on our end. FWIW, I use the Primal web app every day, as well as Damus occasionally, and I’ve never had this issue.

If this helps at all, i never ever used anything but Damus. like i checked out coracle and yosupp and stuff but i didnt start using primal web till a few months ago maybe 2 months.

Now im like losing my friends, not seeing my friends posts cuz i only look on my following feed i dont look in universe. But im literally losing follows too. There's time even if its posting a note that it says it didnt post (but it did) and the dialog box never clears itself, it does that with DMS too. is there some kind of process of elimination i can do where i uninstall everything and start from scratch, so that way you can get the data you need?

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Hey nostr:npub16tnq9ruem6evwmywhu69xxl0qk802f03vf8hftvkuvw0n7mmz83stxcvw5, let’s see if we can get to the bottom of this.

If you are *only* using Damus and the Primal web app with your nsec, and your relay list is getting deleted, then one of these apps is deleting it. Note that if you access any other Nostr web app via your browser extension, that app is also theoretically able to make changes on your behalf. Please confirm.

If you are able to reproduce relay deletion via the Primal web app, please let us know which exact action you performed, and we will try to reproduce this on our end. FWIW, I use the Primal web app every day, as well as Damus occasionally, and I’ve never had this issue.

Okay mr miljan, so heres what i have going on.

I use alby via safari to 07 my entry into primal.

I dont use a signer on my damus, and i'm on test flight always.

Not sure if that matters.

I never ever, touch the settings on either. I have like the same 8 relays I always use, and that im happy with.

Over the last few days too, i've noticed my primal web has been laggy. Sometimes ill try to post a note and it will say it failed but it goes through anyway. Sometimes I will send a DM, and the input box never clears itself, but if i click something else then click back in the dm, it sent.

I'm losing my follows, which is nuts. And if i'm not mistaken, i never had this problem until i used the data backup thing that pablo suggested... metadata.nostr.com

I'm 99% sure that PRIOR to that, I didnt have these two issues.

When pablo posted like hey your meta data can get wiped, I chose to back it up on that.

So now what seems to happen is my damus and my primal are overwriting themselves ( and to both you and will please dont get upset if im saying it wrong ) its just what it feels like. So for example earlier today I loaded my damus, and ALL my relays were deleted. then I added the 4 suggested relays and boom, content started coming through, but it was basically dead doing nothing.

But then ill go on my primal, and i see like follow buttons for people i know i damn sure followed. and I dont know exactly what is happening. Its not ONLY the clients fighting over the relay list, its also my follows. Do you have a workflow you can give me so I can try to get more data on how this is happening? I literally just had to re follow you, and i've followed you almost as long as will. I have no clue wtf is going on here. should i close one, and update the other. should i close both? what do i do to help?

lol yea sleepy hold on i will send it to you on TG

jeez that looks so big and i look so ugly

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Hey nostr:npub16tnq9ruem6evwmywhu69xxl0qk802f03vf8hftvkuvw0n7mmz83stxcvw5, let’s see if we can get to the bottom of this.

If you are *only* using Damus and the Primal web app with your nsec, and your relay list is getting deleted, then one of these apps is deleting it. Note that if you access any other Nostr web app via your browser extension, that app is also theoretically able to make changes on your behalf. Please confirm.

If you are able to reproduce relay deletion via the Primal web app, please let us know which exact action you performed, and we will try to reproduce this on our end. FWIW, I use the Primal web app every day, as well as Damus occasionally, and I’ve never had this issue.

Yes sir i will collect all of the cirumstances of everything and report them back, let me gather that data for you im almost done with what im working on. But i love using damus on my phone and i love using primal on my browser, so i really want to get to the bottom of this also. TYSM for posting a note, ill get you the data here in a minute.

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Openness is a pillar of power. The ability to BE open, and step out into the fray exudes progress and maturity.

Intellectually, as a whole, our species has a vast and untapped potential. If we are able to support one another in our ideas, and we are more accepting of failures, on an individual level, people will be more apt to "try again" and try "harder this time".

Lets not forget to be supportive to the people around us, and at the same time, be forth coming and direct.

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Continue to work to better yourself, and continue to value the work that the persons around you commit to. Together, we can build a better future. A future that does not reward violence or theft, deception or lies. A future of truth, which is where we all (deep in our hearts) want to be.

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I'm trying to find browncat, btw, which is how i realized im losing my friend list, and I need to talk to her.

Will is there a web client I can use on my mini at home that doesnt conflict with my damus? Do you have any suggestions? I like primal but im not going to not use my damus. So something has to give.

Yeah I think that's it will im sorry I should have thought about HOW I said it. My follows keep dissapearing too, like I just now how to re follow YOU, and I followed you like back in miami at the rooftop party. TF.

Been going through the pregame for this with all my mothers surguries and stuff. Man im sorry uT, big hugs man. TRY to have a good christmas, there's mad people out here that love you dog.

Man something is wonky. I just realized why all my DM's are showing up in "other" because im un-following everyone somehow. I just got this huge wave of anxiety over it, fuck this sucks.

Yeah I have done i think one of the westerner charts, I think there's an India chart too or something. I think its called a Natal Chart? I was just curious if you knew about it.

nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s hey Will, I know you're busy but Damus keeps deleting my relay list, and I'm having to re-follow people I know I used to follow.

I've heard at least one other person mention this, not sure exactly what is going on but It might have something to do with me using Damus TF on my phone and Primal Web on my mac mini at home?

How can I reach out to see what's going on or help to try to identify this bug properly. Lemme know.