Avatar
Laeserin
dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319
🎵Die Gedanken sind frei.

Really sexy would be a conversation heatmap, where you could see the intensity and scope of a discussion-cluster. Maybe even including replies to quoted notes, in addition to the original note and its replies.

A visual way of tracking "where the humans at".

Your piss post is trending on the primal 4-hour time span, now. Hilarious.

I guess they're proof that you can throw a lot of money at a project, but that won't guarantee it's any good.

All it takes is someone clever reading this thread and implementing such a solution in their own client, to steal their user base.

I don't think they understand the math enough to do that. They've tried to mimic the effect with time-frames (1-hour, 2-hour, etc.), but that often is just a reflection of active time zones, rather than interesting discussion. Europeans tend to trend until Americans wake up and drown us out.

You can measure human emotion and engagement with simple patterns.

You just have to trace the pattern of the replies, to see how flat the structure is, how many people are involved in the different levels of the structure, and how grammatically complex and diverse the replies are.

GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

- GM

Groundbreaking topic

- Complex note from npub 1

-- Complex response to npub 1 from npub 2

- Complex response from npub 1 from npub 3

- Complex note from npub 4

- Complex note from npub 1

-- Complex response to npub 1 from npub 2

- Complex response from npub 1 from npub 3

- Complex note from npub 4

- Complex note from npub 1

-- Complex response to npub 1 from npub 2

- Complex response from npub 1 from npub 3

- Complex note from npub 4

The problem Nostr is having, for its social-media use case, is that it's not transparent where the actual socializing is occuring.

Too much focus on analyzing the visibility of original notes and not enough on analyzing the quality of the replies.

They could simply create a trending list that measures human interaction, so that people could jump into lively discussions.

That would solve the problem of clicking on something "trending" and having it be a thread where nobody responds to your reply. Sometimes the original note poster isn't even "here". So it's just like they throw a bone and everyone shows up to squabble over it, but it's not a real discussion and the replies are dull and flat.

What I mean is that the trending lists seem to take into account which note is getting the most interaction directly (replies, quotes, reposts, zaps, likes, etc.) -- which is mostly a reflection of how many followers that npub has --, but not how much interaction the interactions are getting. There's no measure of the second-order interaction, typical of human conversation in groups, so you can't really tell how much influence one note is having upon the wider discussion.

So, a GM note from a huge account is "trending", a lively back-n-forth discussion between small and mid-sized accounts isn't, but the second is where the "human action" is.

I suspect they're sometimes just financial sponsors, to be honest, or people the client-developers are hoping will promote the client. Client influencers. LOL

Yes, most of the less-active accounts are lurkers who post an old meme once per week or repost everything the Big 10 accounts post. As if everyone weren't already following the Big 10 themselves, so you end up with a feed full of reposts and tired memes, but devoid of original information.

There are people here following thousands of npubs, but their feed is basically dead. More effective to just find someone who reposts things you are interested in and allow them to curate your feed.

According to a recent study by Intuit Credit Karma, 31% of Gen Zers are living with their parents because they can’t afford to rent or buy their own place. Overall, 11% of American adults still live at home with their parents...

About a quarter (27%) of Gen Zers reported that they could no longer afford rent and 25% said they’ll have to move back in with family to make ends meet. Millennials are in the same boat: 30% say rent is unaffordable, and 25% are thinking about moving back in with their parents.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/its-economy-stupid-real-reason-so-may-young-people-are-living-their-parents

Hi, Isa! :-) Welcome to Nostr.

There's a private/paid wine relay (the symbol is a glass of wine, you can see it listed in the relays in my profile https://next.nostrudel.ninja/#/u/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl/relays)

Once someone subscribes to that relay (which is a server containing the notes of the subscribers), they can then add the special filter that pulls notes from other big relays, so that you can see the notes of your followers and from the people they follow. You can also use it to "broadcast" to other big relays, to make sure most Nostr users can see your notes.

https://docs.nostr.wine/filter/readme

Well, we often give up in exasperation and do that, but it's so terribly unromantic.