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Replying to Avatar Jimmy

Here they explain how to package an app for umbrel https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps and you can browse existing apps and see how their docker-compose.yml is specified.

This is great! That ks!

I was trying to learn to do something like this before, could you provide reference material by chance?

Replying to Avatar Pablo Xannybar

I don't see most people here having an objection to pay for a service that delivers on its promises - but as you point out, Twitter is not free in speech as Elon promised it would be, nor is it free in the sense of freedom in owning your data.

Rather you are paying for priority in the algorithm and that's practically it, unless you consider a tick a status symbol which it isn't now anyone with $8 can get one.

Imo it's not comparable to paid relays for a few reasons. First you can enjoy the benefits of paid relays without paying a cent, you only need to pay to write to them. On Twitter you must pay the premium or you are effectively treated like a bot. More and more of Twitter is becoming Blue only.

Second, if I don't like the policies or prices of one paid relays I can pay for a different one. Or I can make my own and choose it's public, invite only, or paid. There's a free market due to the competition.

Additionally, soon we will have the same for algorithms. Clients can create algorithm markets. Each user can choose the algorithm they want (or none at all) without being penalised by a central authority.

The real beef isn't the cost. It's that Elon promised he'd make Twitter a free market of ideas and turn it into a decentralised protocol because it was too important to be centrally controlled. He also promised Twitter would integrate crypto payments and become a multimedia platform and integrate encrypted DMs and all sorts. He hasn't delivered on either.

I'd like to point out that Nostr does pretty much all of that aside from the multimedia already. And even there, you can see it's being worked on rapidly. Twitter is owned by one of the richest people in the world and so far all they've accomplished is $8 blue ticks. Look at what Nostr has accomplished in the same time with mostly a volunteer open source community.

At least the Twitter algorithm is open source though. So he did keep one promise.

I think these are mostly all valid points, but

1. Twitter isnt going to release half baked alpha software that let's you potentially zap your money into the abyss. I think Elon wants to make twitter into a super app, meaning having a payment service built in; we should make sure nostr dominates this field.

2. Paid verification is their way of controlling bots, if you only scroll twitter then you don't need an account at all, if you want to be treated like a real person with important ideas then you'll have to pay the toll, just like subbing to a paid relay. On both platforms, content creators are being charged, users don't really have an incentive to pay.

3. The UX provided by the central provider, twitter, is already better than any nostr relay; there's no shopping around or ditching one for the other, because there doesn't need to be.

Because the block reward is a subsidy, its there to juice hashrate up until fees can take over, but ideally there isn't this source of new money distorting price signals.

Replying to Avatar Logen

People toast people?

Today I learned to not keep the stock google camera app on my home screen, thanks for this.

I think it'll taper off, people like to engage with novelty. Once the limitations become clear people will find the bots pretty boring I think.

It will decelerate the advancement of culture the same way google has, reinforcing "what is" rather than forcing people to figure out "what could be", maybe. I was looking for something to put on and stumbled across "hidden forces episode 299" that more or less covers the issue, we relive the same year endlessly in some ways, culture hasn't progressed because time is no longer relevant. Who knows, just my 2 sats.

Regardless of what anyone says, tik tok is an app we should try to learn from. Its a better search engine than google, it has better reviews than yelp, among other things. I don't think it would be a bad idea for nostr clients to incorporate ideas from wechat and tik tok.

Nostr should be one finger of a "super app" that allows you to plugin your bitcoin & lightning wallet, have video calls/hosting & chat rooms with keet.io, maybe an authentication app like google authenticator, I could see a chromium web browser like brave but without all the crypto bullshit. All would be apps that can function on their own, open source, but collected into one app to rule them all.

I mean, I meant from, but I suppose the government has their problems too lol

I had to actually price a good in sats the other day. I said "this one costs a million sats, this one costs two million". It felt very cumbersome, and my friends definitely laughed, maybe this will get more natural with time. Millisats doesn't really work, we have enough technical debt having to divide by 100,000,000, we shouldnt mess around with peoples perception of the metric system.

There were so many warnings, so many second chances, so much begging and pleading to stop, but we didn't listen. Even now, I'm of the firm belief that these countries would drop what they are doing and come back to the table if we could just stop being such dickheads. We deserve this.