What's all this hubbub about a #thenukening ?
*checks private relay*
Nah, I'm good
Carry on
Followed.
Yes: it is both a plea and a warning.
VanDrunen, [Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture](https://amzn.to/49CW28u) - written at a popular level
Grabill, [Rediscovering the Natural Law in Reformed Theological Ethics](https://amzn.to/3uqNEsN) - academic
VanDrunen,
[Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms: A Study in the Development of Reformed Social Thought](https://amzn.to/49KH6VW) - academic
VanDrunen, [Divine Covenants and Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law](https://amzn.to/47k2rE7) - academic
VanDrunen, [Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World](https://amzn.to/3GakdO2) - academic
Note, these are best read in the above order, as the later books build on arguments made in prior books. Start with the first one which is shorter and written at a more popular level (and note the year published--he says some things about public education in the latter chapters that I no longer think he would say), then if you want to go deeper, tackle the much more academic latter four. VanDrunen's last two were especially eye-opening for me.
Happy reading...
I was referring to the meme about Bob Barker having died like 5 times in the past 10 years, but I too love the oldies-but-goodies
For whatever this is worth. After fully rejecting theonomy/theocracy as a ground for the current political order, I spent many years trying to answer the question "on what basis, then, can we make any laws?" I've come to the place where I believe the Reformers (in general) and the Classical Liberals (in general) were correct. There is a Divine Lawgiver who has revealed through Natural Law and through conscience what is generally required of people--that these requirements flow from the "second table" of the moral law, and that he has revealed this law sufficiently enough even for unbelievers to recognize it. I found further support for this in the "two kindgoms" model, specifically in God's ordaining retributive justice as the norm for the common kingdom (Genesis 9:6). This is also why I am a libertarian--the non-aggression principle aligns rather nicely with the prohibitions of the 6th through 9th commandments (don't murder, don't steal, honesty in contracts, etc.). For a deeper study on this stuff, I'd highly recommend VanDrunen's three book series as well as Stephen Graybill's on the Natural Law tradition in the Reformed tradition. Let me know if you want the full titles. Well worth the time if you're interested in how Christians ought to think about, and to what end we ought to work, in the political order...
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Right. The point of difference between most post-mils and a-mils is how he makes his enemies his footstool. The former tend to think it's by the church taking dominion over the institutions of the world thus preparing a way for him; the latter tend to think that he will come to do that himself.
No, in his first advent he came to seek and to save the lost. He came offering salvation during the age of grace. But that day will end, and he will come again to execute vengeance on all his and our enemies. We now live in that comma after "to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor" and before "and the day of vengeance of our God..."
We are Rahabs in a Cosmic Jericho, and Joshua is coming...🤙🏼
Ever notice what was left out in Lk 4:18,19 when Jesus quoted Isa. 61:1-2?
Out like a Lamb
In like a Lion
Epic Fail: 9-Year-Old Girl Exposes Nikki Haley’s Campaign Grift
https://www.infowars.com/posts/epic-fail-9-year-old-girl-exposes-nikki-haleys-campaign-grift
#Zap to support, DM to suggest new feeds.
I strongly dislike Haley, but I don't think there's anything wrong with this. It's called campaigning.
See 2 Thessalonians 1:5ff
It's not his blood in Rev 14:20, though I grant that's apocalyptic literature.
When he returns it will be a day of deliverance for his people, and a day of terrifying vengeance against his enemies...
In the socio-political sphere, Libertarianism (of the Ron Paul variety, not of the beltway mags) is about the closest I think we can get to being "wise as serpents, harmless as doves."
#pilgrims #exiles #libertarianism
Amen!
Not a 'neutral' sphere, but a 'common' sphere, ruled by *God's* Lex Talionis (retributive law, i.e., justice) per the Noachic covenant and or natural law...
Understood! Both of you are interesting interlocuters. 🤝🏻
It means we don't live in a theocracy and neither should we try to establish one--Christ will come bearing that sword. Now, the kingdom is ethical (in our hearts), then it will be geopolitical. Until then, the church, as church, should not take up or decide civil matters. As a great introduction, I'd suggest David VanDrunen, Living in God's Two Kingdoms.
Tried zapping you but didn't go through. Using Amethyst / Alby.
Especially the Longman annotated edition. The man was a genius.
There's a lot more spycraft in parenting than I would have thought.