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any good recommendations to buy non KYC #bitcoin? #asknostr

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Fiat money is a crime against humanity

Fuck I still don't know how to buy sats non cuatodially.

Inclusive, isso já acontece na Bisq

How can I have non kyc BTC? With simple easy steps?

Unfortunately I'm in the US so I can't do peach. I'll look at robosats though for sure!

I won't lie, I'm at the point where I think I'm just DONE trying to get into #Bitcoin, #Monero or any other coin.

I love the technology. I think it's phenomenal, it presents some truly incredible future possibilities. I also do think it has the potential to free people from the fiat scam. I wouldn't be on Nostr and continually trying to find ways to get into this space if I didn't believe in it.

However, its number one weakness is KYC/AML. Even to buy small amounts, you have to upload sensitive documents to an exchange with some stupid selfie, and you have absolutely no way of verifying that they are doing their absolute best guarding that data even if I were comfortable with them having it (I'm not). It's not even the concern of them tying my identity to my Bitcoin (though that is still problematic), I just don't have any intentions of trusting a CEX with my sensitive data, I am aware of no-KYC DEXes and Bitcoin ATMs. Neither of them work without major sacrifice, risk or geographic issues.

With DEXes, you're risking your money trading with sellers that might not honor the deal. Sure, you usually have escrows, but then you're trusting that DEX. Ignoring that issue for a moment, whatever DEXes I'm on have offers that usually demand either cash by mail or credit card, ans some of them actually run KYC checks of their own. Cash by mail is a huge risk in this day and age, and I certainly have no plans to send a credit card number to a total stranger (and that's assuming one has a credit card; I don't). Then, once again, ignoring that issue brings up another one: the minimum trade amount. Nine times out of ten, any offers I see on a DEX set like a $150 minimum. Problem is, for people like me who just want to start slowly, to test the waters, this is problematic as well. Plus, it goes back to the high potential for scams, and risking $150 that I'm locking away is not a good risk to take, particularly when you're in a tight financial spot like I am.

Then, you have Bitcoin ATMs. Provided you can find one (only one in my area and not in the best town), you're going to spend truly exorbitant amounts on their fees. The one near me charges 20%. If I wanted to start with, say, $50 to start stacking, they'd take $10 of that. Plus, unlike other industries, I've found that it's very difficult to find reviews on these companies and as such, I have no idea how reputable the company is.

At the end of the day, I seriously don't know how y'all do it. Are you all just complying with the absurd KYC regulations or what? Because every other method I've tried (and believe me, I've tried so much) has fallen through in spectacular fashion. How can Bitcoin truly become the replacement I believe it can be, if we all have to either go along with draconian regulations or make a big financial risk?

Please help me understand, because I really am at the point where I'm thinking I'm done trying.

#asknostr #KYC

I won't lie, I'm at the point where I think I'm just DONE trying to get into #Bitcoin, #Monero or any other coin.

I love the technology. I think it's phenomenal, it presents some truly incredible future possibilities. I also do think it has the potential to free people from the fiat scam. I wouldn't be on Nostr and continually trying to find ways to get into this space if I didn't believe in it.

However, its number one weakness is KYC/AML. Even to buy small amounts, you have to upload sensitive documents to an exchange with some stupid selfie, and you have absolutely no way of verifying that they are doing their absolute best guarding that data even if I were comfortable with them having it (I'm not). It's not even the concern of them tying my identity to my Bitcoin (though that is still problematic), I just don't have any intentions of trusting a CEX with my sensitive data, I am aware of no-KYC DEXes and Bitcoin ATMs. Neither of them work without major sacrifice, risk or geographic issues.

With DEXes, you're risking your money trading with sellers that might not honor the deal. Sure, you usually have escrows, but then you're trusting that DEX. Ignoring that issue for a moment, whatever DEXes I'm on have offers that usually demand either cash by mail or credit card, ans some of them actually run KYC checks of their own. Cash by mail is a huge risk in this day and age, and I certainly have no plans to send a credit card number to a total stranger (and that's assuming one has a credit card; I don't). Then, once again, ignoring that issue brings up another one: the minimum trade amount. Nine times out of ten, any offers I see on a DEX set like a $150 minimum. Problem is, for people like me who just want to start slowly, to test the waters, this is problematic as well. Plus, it goes back to the high potential for scams, and risking $150 that I'm locking away is not a good risk to take, particularly when you're in a tight financial spot like I am.

Then, you have Bitcoin ATMs. Provided you can find one (only one in my area and not in the best town), you're going to spend truly exorbitant amounts on their fees. The one near me charges 20%. If I wanted to start with, say, $50 to start stacking, they'd take $10 of that. Plus, unlike other industries, I've found that it's very difficult to find reviews on these companies and as such, I have no idea how reputable the company is.

At the end of the day, I seriously don't know how y'all do it. Are you all just complying with the absurd KYC regulations or what? Because every other method I've tried (and believe me, I've tried so much) has fallen through in spectacular fashion. How can Bitcoin truly become the replacement I believe it can be, if we all have to either go along with draconian regulations or make a big financial risk?

Please help me understand, because I really am at the point where I'm thinking I'm done trying.

#asknostr #KYC

What’s the best way to buy #Bitcoin anonymously?

#asknostr

What’s the best way to buy #Bitcoin anonymously?

#asknostr

Gonna have to scrape a good chunk of money together, but my next challenge is buying #Bitcoin on bisq and getting a non-KYC stack together.

Always something to learn in this space, which keeps me coming back for more.

ahahah yes - this has been my exact thoughts every time i open robosats or bisq (etc) and look at the AUD offers - smells fishy

gift cards seemed like the only real decent option tbh - but, as much as it pains me, i’m leaning towards kyc and then just switching out to xmr instantly

yeah, i remember when local monero was a thing there were a lot more cash in mail options - which seemed reasonable

but, every p2p option with liquidity in australia seems to be “payid” or some sort of bank transfer which i’m pretty sure potentially has your first / last name - and, definitely the details of your bank account 🤨

as you mentioned, gift cards seem lower in liquidity - mining seems to really be the only foolproof option 😢

otherwise, as dumb as it sounds, if you assume that it’s always a fed that’s on the other side of the p2p trade; then you’re probably putting a bigger target going p2p than just going through an exchange (again, as terrible as that sounds)

as you say, p2p at bitcoin meetups could be good - but, even that carries the extra risk of wrench attack

#austriches how do you purchase non-kyc btc or xmr using fiat without exposing your name and / or bank account?

in p2p trades you can never guarantee that your counterparty isn’t listing down your bank account details (and everything that they get sent) - and, i’d even make the argument that if that’s occurring, you’re probably getting labelled as “higher risk” by those doing the tracking - because you’re going through the effort to make a p2p non-kyc trade

what’s the best option(s) here?

#bitcoin #btc #bisq #monero #xmr #haveno-reto #no-kyc

#austriches how do you purchase non-kyc btc or xmr using fiat without exposing your name and / or bank account?

in p2p trades you can never guarantee that your counterparty isn’t listing down your bank account details (and everything that they get sent) - and, i’d even make the argument that if that’s occurring, you’re probably getting labelled as “higher risk” by those doing the tracking - because you’re going through the effort to make a p2p non-kyc trade

what’s the best option(s) here?

#bitcoin #btc #bisq #monero #xmr #haveno-reto #no-kyc

#austriches how do you purchase non-kyc btc or xmr using fiat without exposing your name and / or bank account?

in p2p trades you can never guarantee that your counterparty isn’t listing down your bank account details (and everything that they get sent) - and, i’d even make the argument that if that’s occurring, you’re probably getting labelled as “higher risk” by those doing the tracking - because you’re going through the effort to make a p2p non-kyc trade

what’s the best option(s) here?

#bitcoin #btc #bisq #monero #xmr #haveno-reto #no-kyc