For example https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire says:

> In Debian 11, PipeWire 0.3.19 is available, and can be experimentally used as a substitute for the ALSA userspace library, PulseAudio, and JACK. This is a documented but unsupported use-case. In Debian 12, PipeWire 0.3.65 is available, and is considerably more reliable, and is a comfortable drop-in replacement for many use-cases. PipeWire is the default sound server with GNOME Desktop.

Try XFCE with xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, you might be better off.

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