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Genesis also confirms him as the 7th descendant of Adam and briefly discusses the fact that he ascended to heaven

that it's not part of the bible is a signal, in my opinion, that the catholic church didn't want people to understand that angels were humans

they literally tried to eliminate it from all of europe, it didn't get seen by europeans again until someone discovered the Ethiopian Orthodox Christians kept it

and half of the famous sayings of Jesus are actually quotations of Enoch

i call bullshit on the idea that the catholic bible is the word of God, it has some of His Words but not the most important ones.

772f9545... 11mo ago

The book Enoch was not considered canon in Judaism nor pre-schism Christianity. It's not in the Septuagint, for example, the Scriptures that Jesus quotes in the four gospels.

That doesn't mean it's not interesting or not useful, but it is not normative. There doesn't seem to have been a conspiracy to stamp it out, no conspiracy, it simply wasn't considered canon so it wasn't propagated.

I see a couple of Ethiopian churches have a larger set of scriptures and they include it. That does not elevate it to the status of the Torah or New Testament.

Which are these famous sayings of Jesus that quote from Enoch? Or are you referring to other extra-biblical books here too?

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 11mo ago

i would go further and add that several of Jesus statements come straight out of the Tao Te Ching and the writings of Chuang Tzu also

i am working on my understanding of this concurrently with my necessary work that pays my bills, it's a complex subject and i have many distractions

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 11mo ago

also, just read the damn thing, just the first part even, and then come back to me and talk about what the real sin of the fallen angels was

it wasn't just tempting eve to steal fruit from a tree

it was a whole systemic thing that the Noah story details

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 11mo ago

to say it's not foundational is actually retarded

which direction do the references pass from the canon to the texts of Enoch? yes, not from enoch to the canon, and that should say a lot i think

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 11mo ago

seriously, none of the canon texts discount that guy, none

they just don't emphasise the reality of the angels, and i think that is a 🚩