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Morning Nostriches! So I just saw that the Elon jet tracker joined Nostr. I am outraged that something like this is encouraged by you nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m. Elon is a father and the information shared about his movement could be dangerous. We are talking about the safety of a family here.

This shows how dangerous Nostr can be. There are NO safety rules. This isn't funny nor cool. To possibly put the safety of a family in danger at very hard economical times. nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6

and all the creators of this space. My question for you guys is how can you guarantee the safety of people in this space? If any information can be out with no moral boundaries. I'm all for freedom of speech but safety is important too.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

Can you guarantee that water will not be used to drown people? Since you can't, shall we ban water?

We cannot guarantee that nostr will be used only for good things. Nevertheless, nostr is a public good.

I agree that exposing where Elon's jet is, in a "stochastic terrorism" kind of way, might help enable someone who wants to harm him or his family. But it isn't directly harming him or his family. The actual harming is where we draw the line -- harming someone is illegal.

When you flip it over and ask "should it be illegal to mention somebody's whereabouts" the answer is obviously no.

We live in a world full of risks. We cannot eliminate them. And we have to draw sensible bounds on what behavior is and isn't legal. AFAIK tracking Elon's jet is legal.

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jack 2y ago

At this point didn’t the tracker move to delaying the information because of safety concerns?

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

I have no factual data about this matter. I'm arguing in the abstract. Maybe someone else knows.

pam 2y ago

It’s delayed by 24 hrs

Boutaina 2y ago

The conclusion that I'm taking away from this lovely conversation is:

1- No to tracking

2- No to censoring

3- No to bullying

4- No to giving excuses to stupid behavior

The end.

And thank you!

David Cavan Fraser 2y ago

No in what sense?

No, you think it’s wrong?

Or no, you won’t allow it?

Boutaina 2y ago

No as I think it's wrong.

I'm just a normal girl, I have no power. I can't allow or not allow anything 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Original But Not 2y ago

Stopping people posting tracking information is censoring. Agree massively with points 3,4

mahdieh✨ 2y ago

Add one more No for yourself… No pointing at someone in your conversation when you’re not sure…

nobody 2y ago

no idea - probably more concerned about himself than anyone else. definitely wasn't for the sake of the target. and honestly, his information is useless, just cached public domain. everything else is stolen or guesswork. obviously.

It'sMe 2y ago

Yes. Right after the incident and the Twitter suspension.

RealJohnDoe 2y ago

It's wrong, and it shouldn't be done. Doing so has no legitimate purpose except to do harm..😐

C. 2y ago

Honestly, why does anyone care if the shittiest person and his dumb baby mamas end up being stalked? The man deserves to be distressed and harassed.

mahdieh✨ 2y ago

What’s the reason of sharing this or any tracking?!

Something may not be illegal, but it’s not ethical…!