Nostr Web Client

Honestly while we're in a bit of a "complain about Nostr" mood... My biggest issue is just how much stuff gets started (with much fanfare), then dropped when the Devs move onto the next Shiny Thing. Their discarded creations then become "zombie projects", still out there in the wild, still presenting the illusion to users that they actually work... when they don't.

The #mostr and #momostr bridges are both fundamentally broken, but in in different ways... nostr:nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhggpt7fy seems AWOL on the whole thing.

#longform clients are all various stages of broken and/or unusable.

#pokey, the only way to have decent notifications in Android, hasn't had an update in 6 months

#coracle and #amethyst are still solid, well-maintained clients... So things could be worse.

Should we have a nostr:nprofile1qqsqkp9vz32s779drxhyjw42khsteafun3qjk8fwzr8d9zhtfzkt60ca48zqj , but for Nostr SW?? 🤔

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The Daniel ⚡️ 0mo ago

Responsible devs should sunset their projects when they plan to stop maintaining them, or at least post a disclaimer on them.

arfonzo 0mo ago

Coming back to nostr after a bit of a hiatus, I feel this. On the one hand I'm loving seeing the ecosystem has grown so much. On the other hand, it's hard to know what's no longer being maintained versus actively under development. New users will be even more lost because at least I have a frame of reference from early 2023 when I joined.

Big kudos to nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9u2mk7fe and other active devs who've been around for years and still actively maintain and improve their code. 🙏😻

Globe99 0mo ago

Seriously. The Mostr thing, TBH, is actually really bad... People think they're actually talking to someone, and it's just "dead air" most of the time:

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp0qzuznvpuq6m8940g4slrhcysdutluhnnjy2t8fufpau3th2ee9qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qgnwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxtcqyrx3uesychqq8ecpnqxwnchxelqlm3t2xrct378eqgctsl4vangncdcxyvd

Alex should really just shut it down at this point, if he's not willing to fix it....

Alex Gleason 0mo ago

It's on my massive agenda of things to do. I don't owe you anything. You fix it you fucking lazy bum.

The Daniel ⚡️ 0mo ago

Globe99 0mo ago

well... guess I got his attention? 🫥

The Daniel ⚡️ 0mo ago

Your comment didn’t come off as insulting to me. I think it’s important for adoption that we fix the things that people point to when they say Nostr is broken.

Globe99 0mo ago

Wow, umm... sorry?

This is literally the first time you've acknowledged there being a problem with these systems. So that's good, that's progress!

I would (respectfully) again suggest that perhaps Mostr be shut down until it can be fixed, because (as I've demonstrated upthread) it really presents a sort of deceptive view to less-technical users that 2-way communication is possible just like any other npub, when really this doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, maybe have it hosted somewhere else than Gitlab, which requires paid subscriptions to submit issues?

Alex Gleason 0mo ago

Do you realize that the bridge is under constant attack from people who want it to be taken down? It's an endless cat and mouse game. I have many other priorities. Sometimes I have more important things to do than making sure 2 failing social media protocols can insult each other online. Then you come in and say "take it down". Fuck you. You're exactly the same.

Globe99 0mo ago

"2 failing social media protocols" wow... hard to square that with the guy in that 2023 Youtube.

I mean, I'll be the first to admit that I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe you should write about it, so people understand?

Taking it down is a drastic option, but of course there are other solutions... Perhaps some brief updates to the documentation? Some kind of "work in progress, experiencing issues" pinned post on nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwd4hhxarj9ec82c30qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmp0qqsxhcu0333a7ldlsndha39xumammrgemj3mnq8045v9shzx7p9jd7guesmtu ? Any way of indicating "open issues", for that matter?

I'm just trying to create a situation where people know that "hey this Mic might not be on"....

Globe99 0mo ago

FWIW I've had some great interactions across the Momostr bridge (and, rarely when it works, Mostr).

It's magical to have two completely separate social media protocols be able to talk to one another. It'd be a shame if we lost that.

Alex Gleason 1w ago

Alright I fixed it doofus

Globe99 1w ago

Wow, cool! So, I'm curious, what was the issue?

Globe99 0mo ago

FWIW I really dig the origin vision of Mostr that you outlined on the stage back in 2023... As legacy social media platforms continue to decay from both their own enshittification and external government pressures, we have an opportunity to unite the entire "decentralized" social media ecosystem using this kind of interoperability.

You're right, you don't owe me or anyone else anything. But I think the responsible thing to do is to "sunset" projects that aren't being maintained, aren't working, or both.