Did you guys ever come across Xanadu (uh, concept?), or OpenXanadu (the example app)? 🤣 I am infatuated with the idea of transclusivity and you guys are pioneering in that way for sure.

I wanted to write more in my article, about Brainstorm and GitCitadel but I needed to keep things simple, for exactly the same reasons you mention. I come from a place of desiring sovereign speech and eradicating user data from backend silos. I think I'm far more of an independent journalist than a developer, but I've always been into the coding stuff. Wanted to make video games a long time ago, so eventually might get back to that. In the mean time, just publishing one long-form article was questionable at best.

All I really see missing from the GitCitadel ecosystem is a local-forward frontend with support for different views. Of course, I'm championing the idea of LogSeq type of views, but I mentioned to JD/will that users really desire a flexible application that can swap freely between Markdown editing and.. whatever LogSeq does.. graphing nodes? Or whatever.

I am going to try and work with Jumble.social tomorrow and maybe host my own instance of it for directly interfacing with my relay.tools instance, so users will actually be able to just hop on to the same conversations, with nip-42 auth. We are getting really close to a great place, I think.

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Don't know Xanadu

I once saw it described as the longest-running failed application 🤣 or something like that.. OpenXanadu is a weird little example of trying to build what Xanadu tried to make.. this is ancient internet stuff that is still floating around in the world.. it's all based on some old note-keeping system called the Memex, which you may have heard of instead.

In my mind, the Nostr protocol provides a wealth of transclusive information. The concept of transclusivity is not an exact science, I think. I see many examples of it in various things. I assume when a traditional web article embeds a Tweet- this is transclusive. The Tweet exists somewhere else, but has been embedded, and provides a source.

You and Citadel are very familiar with it, for sure. OpenXanadu is just a fun visualization of what the old attempts at (LogSeq) looked like.

xanadu.com/tech

open.xanadu.com (lol)

xanadu.com/xuDemoPage.html (kind of interesting actually)

https://xanadu.com/xanademos/MoeJusteOrigins.html