If you were triggered by my post about nationalism/statism being a form of Stockholm syndrome, watch this.
And if you still want to be a statist after watching it, just unfollow me đ¤ˇââď¸
https://video.nostr.build/4ea168f6cf963bed49cfad736cb12960fb890f66f2cbde2c0f3a7e9117455b1b.mp4
Amazing video!
Another amazing point is the reason for the robbing, this is because the government (through the FED) certainly doesn't need to rob anyone.
Yes! Itâs much easier to rob through printing than auditing millions of people with the IRS.
I think taxes exist for a reason and exist for a reason just how governments exist but like everything, it gets corrupted because of humans. That doesnât mean itâs not necessary for society. I think the topic is more nuanced.
FIAT coupled with taxes is straight up robbery.
You watched that entire video and this was the conclusion you came up with?
Is donating theft?
Donating is voluntary and consensual. No one is threatening to kill you or lock you in a cage if you donât donate. So it isnât theft.
Fantastic, say you live in a utopian community where we are on the bitcoin standard and almost everyone provides value for sats. In this society there are those who canât provide any value to the community at all and are suffering. How do they survive?
I donât know. They could get a job and provide value. They could ask for money from people. They could go to voluntary humanitarian services like a church that feeds the homeless.
Yeah but youâre still talking about someone who could provide value and the solution canât be that they turn into a beggar.
This is just a basic example. Im open to accepting maybe taxes are theft but logically it makes no sense. How can you have a utopian society where you no solutions for your weakest links.
I never said we would have a utopian society
What is the difference between theft and taxes?
You Dictating that they can't provide value is YOUR opinion. In a society in which you espoused no individual is valueless. Everyone can do something for someone else at anytime. Also in this said society every individual has vastly much more wealth as there is no state to coercivly extract nonsensical bullshit. So each had more to give and each family is much more wealthy in aggregate with the abilty to provide on their own to those that you believe are valueless.
What is the difference between "taxes" and "theft?"
I don't like taxes either and I agree tax = theft but taxes weren't invented by some dudes whu wrote US constitution. They existed in ancient times and they planted this as a necessary evil into our genes through milleniums.
If I'd be a king of the world, I would definitely impose taxes but a bit different system. Every person would define where 60% of their taxes should go and every sat would be traceable where the money went.
In general people wouldn't mind paying taxes if their money would be spent for things and services they care about.
But this would end wars and current systems don't like that.
If paying taxes is in our dna, then why do people feel so bad on April 15th?
How is it a tax if they get to voluntarily choose where the money goes?
Whats on april 15th? I'm not an American. I speek for the world :)
I look at a country or a planet (if we unite but that's wet dream) as one family. They earn and save and spend for things they need. They might even produce something and sell it to get something back.
Now zoom out to all of us. If taxes would be voluntary not many would chip in and I think it's fair all of us add to the table based on our earnings and profits.
Currently you have no way of knowing where your money has been spent by the government and if people have majority of saying where the money should go, not many of us would complain about it because we get what we want.
Remember that public infrastructure cost something.
Current tax systems are mostly unfair and a lot of our money goes for unnecessary projects build just to steal millions and most of it for military spending. Why? Who are they so afraid of?
Us maybe đ¤
April 15 is tax day in the US. Americans hate this day.
You didnât answer my questions.
Why do Americans hate this day if paying taxes is in our dna?
How is it a tax if people can voluntarily choose where the money goes?
Probably because you all need to do it manually đ¤ˇââď¸ and if you fail doing so, IRS might punish you. It's like the final exam on collage. You know you should pass it but it's still intense.
Ok fine, find a word to this new tax yourself. I would still call it tax because money would be withdrawn from my balance sheet and transfered to the gov. But the power of my tax system is to give us more power to decide who will benefit from it.
You think Americans donât like filing taxes because you have to do it manually? Not because they are paying thousands of dollars of they own money that they would prefer to keep?
If you pay someone voluntarily, then it isnât a tax.
I'll repeat once again. Most current tax systems are not fair.
It's not voluntarily. It's a tax where you decide how should be spent.
We call it theft because they took our money and spend it freely as they wish.
Fair tax would be what people need not what the government need.
If you have thousands of dollars to pay in taxes then I assume your paycheck is uuuge. Military budget likes you a lot :)
Now answer me this. Would you feel any better if your taxes would go back to your community. For better roads, public transport, education etc...
I would not feel better if my taxes went to the community. Thousands of dollars in taxes is not a lot in America especially when the average home costs about $500k.
What is the difference between theft and taxes?
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Can you use words? This doesnât mean anything
We came all circle mate. I will not repeat myself again. I said what I had to say.
You never answered my question so idk what youâre repeating.
Remember one thing. The happiest people live in countries with highest taxes.
It's not taxes that are evil. It's the system and culture you live in.
This is not true. Americans were happier and more prosperous before income tax. Rates of drug addiction, suicide, poverty, and mental illness have consistently grown after the implementation of income tax.
