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If we dont reach mass adoption, Bitcoin will lose to cbdcs

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CBDCs are inevitable. Bitcoin is for ANYONE who wants opt out not EVERYONE.

Most people won't, can't control general stupidity.

true, but if opting out works were going to need a whole parallel economy with hundreds of millions of participants. Anything short of that will be crushed

That's a fair point

We MUST get the normie cattle person who do not care about anything to use Bitcoin, otherwise we'll be crushed.

I don’t think Bitcoin is the barrier to adoption. The average person doesn’t want to think about protocols. It’s only when we start talking about really cool clients and how they interoperate with each other for the benefit of the user will people start migrating over.

I really should read whole threads before replying to one comment. So you’re talking about lightning adoption not Nostr. How does one separate lightning from Bitcoin?

Nonsense, if they didn't crush us in 2011-2013 during Silk Road, they will never do it.

What makes you so sure we need big numbers to avoid get stamped on?